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06-24-2007, 07:08 AM
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Originally Posted by jaej  I don't doubt it. I've never been known for my sensitivity or kindness.
And I do not think I'm overgeneralizing or I wouldn't have written what I did. I guess we'll just agree to disagree. Or not agree, it's up to you. My opinions haven't changed. | Fair enough ... | 
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06-27-2007, 11:56 AM
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I think we may have different definitions of beginning. What's yours? Because I consider the beginning the time period before Christianity was a dominant force.
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06-27-2007, 02:02 PM
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How could christianity have been propaganda before it existed?
The beginning of christianity.
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06-28-2007, 12:43 PM
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Who said anything about before it existed?
And thank you very much for your detailed definition of the beginning.
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06-28-2007, 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by lauraclay Because I consider the beginning the time period before Christianity was a dominant force. | ???
So christianity was only fake and made up before it became popular, then it was real and sincere? Quote: |
Originally Posted by jaej The beginning of christianity. | I think it's pretty self-explanatory.
It would be the time-when-christianity-began. It doesn't need to be detailed. The early church and the ministry of paul and the disciples.
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06-29-2007, 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by jaej ???
So christianity was only fake and made up before it became popular, then it was real and sincere?
I think it's pretty self-explanatory.
It would be the time-when-christianity-began. It doesn't need to be detailed. The early church and the ministry of paul and the disciples. | No, I didn't say it was fake and made-up.
It's not self-explanatory as it has no end point.
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The purpose of a rabbit snare is to catch rabbits.
When the rabbits are caught, the snare is forgotten.
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When the ideas are grasped, the words are forgotten.
Where can I find a man who has forgotten words?
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06-29-2007, 04:43 PM
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No, I didn't say it was fake and made-up.
| You said it was propaganda, which implies it wasn't sincere.
Main Entry: pro·pa·gan·da
Pronunciation: "prä-p&-'gan-d&, "prO-
Function: noun
Etymology: New Latin, from Congregatio de propaganda fide Congregation for propagating the faith, organization established by Pope Gregory XV died 1623
1 capitalized : a congregation of the Roman curia having jurisdiction over missionary territories and related institutions
2 : the spreading of ideas, information, or rumor for the purpose of helping or injuring an institution, a cause, or a person
3 : ideas, facts, or allegations spread deliberately to further one's cause or to damage an opposing cause; also : a public action having such an effect explain
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If you don't know about early christian history, go do some research. It's not my job to explain it.
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06-29-2007, 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by jaej You said it was propaganda, which implies it wasn't sincere.
Main Entry: pro·pa·gan·da
Pronunciation: "prä-p&-'gan-d&, "prO-
Function: noun
Etymology: New Latin, from Congregatio de propaganda fide Congregation for propagating the faith, organization established by Pope Gregory XV died 1623
1 capitalized : a congregation of the Roman curia having jurisdiction over missionary territories and related institutions
2 : the spreading of ideas, information, or rumor for the purpose of helping or injuring an institution, a cause, or a person
3 : ideas, facts, or allegations spread deliberately to further one's cause or to damage an opposing cause; also : a public action having such an effect | I see nothing in this definition that implies a lack of sincerity. | |
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Main Entry: pro·pa·gan·da
Pronunciation: "prä-p&-'gan-d&, "prO-
Function: noun
Etymology: New Latin, from Congregatio de propaganda fide Congregation for propagating the faith, organization established by Pope Gregory XV died 1623
1 capitalized : a congregation of the Roman curia having jurisdiction over missionary territories and related institutions
2 : the spreading of ideas, information, or rumor for the purpose of helping or injuring an institution, a cause, or a person
3 : ideas, facts, or allegations spread deliberately to further one's cause or to damage an opposing cause; also : a public action having such an effect
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