luvcntsaveyou

i was told that many times

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mohamedhassan

I hope that these are earnest questions, and if they are i'll try to answer them. yes we were made by insest in the begining and it was forbidden after a while. Regardless of if you accept creationism or evolutionism its a fact you can't escape. But however after time insest was forbidden and its reason for being forbidden is quite obvious ( because its disgusting and its negative effects on offspring due to limited gene pool).

Well in the days before god use to use major signs but what makes you think you would believe even if they were brought to you as god says in the quran

"028.048 But (now), when the Truth has come to them from Ourselves, they say, "Why are not (Signs) sent to him, like those which were sent to Moses?" Do they not then reject (the Signs) which were formerly sent to Moses?"

god did send a miracle now and its the quran

Og

Oh cool. Quran has it's own circular logic verse just like the bible in 2nd timothy. I wasn't aware of that.

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mohamedhassan

i don't get it!!!

Geshtinnanna

Unless they removed your spine and are 300 pound sumo wrestlers, you don't have to go anywhere you don't want to. Just say no, firmly and politely and with a face that says 'end of discussion'. But that's just me. I tend to take the very direct route to things. Keeps all the busy bodies away from me. Good luck!

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::sigh:: Was your friend like this before you met her or did she just become like this? -_-;

When your friend is in a good mood (i.e. she just got back from a Christian rock concert. XD), sit her down and talk with her.

Tell her that you have your beliefs and she has hers. If Step One doesn't work: This is lying, but you could also say that maybe one day you might become a Christian, but not now b/c you're still trying to "find your way", so please don't bother you. If she keeps bothering you, tell her that if she continues to bother you that you will not become a Christian OR you will become a Satanist. (Yes, I'm serious. This may shut her up permanently. ^_^)

The Youth thing: You are going to have to put your foot down. Is there something that you like but she doesn't? Tell her that you don't want to go and ask her how she would feel if she was forced to go to or do something she didn't like. This may slow her down. OTHER ALTERNATIVE: Tell her that you will go to one meeting every month. This may appease her and you'll only have to sacrifice a few hours every month.

If she starts yelling at you, then tell her that good Christians don't act like brats. Tell her Jesus doesn't like rude people. (Actually this may either resolve the issue or piss her off even more. So, only you can judge how you think your friend would take that comment). Most Jesus Freaks back down after that comment.

If none of these things work, you may have to tell her that either she accepts you as you are or you won't be her friend. This may end all the harrassment or she may just decide to end the friendship right there. While you will feel sad for losing your best friend (if the latter happens. Hopefully it doesn't), it's just because you aren't "compatable" and there's nothing you can do.

Good luck. If you want, I can e-mail her and straighten her out. I have a way with words. ^_~ I can disguise myself as a Christian like a true ninja.

MartheGod

Mohamed, um, Luv's friend is Christian... ^_^ And we're all either agnostic or atheist...but thanks for your answers.

luvcntsaveyou

shes getting me to become a christian
idk if i like this tho

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MartheGod

Hey. Did you read my post? She can't force you to be Christian if you don't want to. Being a Christian, she should know that.

The An-Jel

If I understand any religion correctly... luv a faith based religion can't force you to do anything. I mean yes in this plastic world that if you say you are something acceptable to society then you appear acceptable... i.e. religion. If you really are agonizing over belief, faith, and reality. Take reality first... what makes sense? Not what everyone else wants... not even what you want unfortunately... what the Universe is telling you.

Be tough... how good of a friend can she be if she can't accept you and what you think is real. Remember most people take on religion because they can't accept reality or never have allowed themselves to accept reality. Your friend is one of those types. One of the things I have told myself over the many years of battling the assaultive personalitys of the religious right (believe me there have been a lot cause I look like innocent Mr. Whitebread Whiteboy blonde haired blue eyed, I prolly mentioned this before) is that Society and Reality are not the same things. Religion is Society based and has NOTHING ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with Reality other than those that try to push their FEARS on you.

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