Are there any Christians here? - Page 2

**The An-Jel** · 02-17-2007, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Og

As i said in your intro post, I am christian. I do not believe in a literal interpretation of the bible in any way, however. I believe that the story of jesus is a wonderful myth with immense ability to speak to the human experience. I do not "disbelieve" the stories of virgin birth and of miracles or of the crucifixtion. I believe that they are beautiful symbols that act as a guide to the full human experience. I believe that the question of belief or disbelief misses the point.

I believe that reading it as though it was a newspaper report misses the point of the message. Read it as poetry and it's illuminating.

Jesus is attributed to have said: "The kingdom of heaven is spread out on the earth right now. It is only that men do not see it." (gospel of Thomas).

I believe that christ's unity with the divine is something attainable by all people. You will not find me criticizing the message of christ's teachings. It's one of compassion and self realization and I think it's beautiful.

As I said in the other thread, you are most welcome here. I've been confirmed and baptized and have done missionary work in northern mexico and have been a jr. high youth counselor and was a musician (guitar) and singer in a sunday morning contemporary worship service for 2 years.

I have a deep appreciation of christ's teachings and I don't have the typical blind faith which i see associate with people living in the bubble of western culture. I see the elementary ideas in christ's message across the world in mythologies far older and in mythologies far younger than christianity's. Christianity is, however, my culture, and my folk expression of these elementary ideas, so I consider myself a christian.

It's not your typical idea of a christian, but I definitely have the love of god in me

You're a hypocrite... you don't believe in free will Og. You try and everytime you try you refute yourself. While I admire you doing that it's sickening within you. There is no battle... you just don't know yet. As for Faith your not much of a Christian.

Vinterland · 02-17-2007, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by }SOC{Spector17

You can't be both; you are either Christian or don't believe in the Bible/Jesus/God. If you are a true Christian you must believe in the Bible.

This is an over-generalisation, and incorrect. In respect to Christianity, yes, beliving in both god and Christ are required for one to be a Christian, but beliving in the Bible is an entirely different matter. More specifically, one doesn't have to believe in a literal, Inspired, "Inerrant Word of God" to be a Christian. All it takes it acknowledgment in the "literal truth" of the scritures and of course acknowledgement of the god as creator, and Jesus as god/saviour.

OG:

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...It appears that I am not christian. Sorry for the confusion. This person who still holds to the delusion of free will as fact has labeled me such

Youre right about that.

And "Faith" is one of the least Christ-like Christian's I've ever met-on the internet.

revpo · 02-18-2007, 06:30 PM

CHRISTIANS...ATTENTION
Do you follow the blessings and history of the pope's..
If you do look at the holy of leaders in the web page story of the papacy
NEXUS<google search will find it>,
corruption
seduction
female pope
revpo

JerryAgent · 03-16-2007, 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Vinterland

More specifically, one doesn't have to believe in a literal, Inspired, "Inerrant Word of God" to be a Christian. All it takes it acknowledgment in the "literal truth" of the scritures and of course acknowledgement of the god as creator, and Jesus as god/saviour.

Proof? Unless you have died and already faced judgement, we can't know God's mind.

You say "acknowledgement." Are you sure that is the best word? If all we did was say "Oh yeah Jesus is the savior and all that, now let's get on with our lives" we would be spiritually vegetating. It should be, "Jesus is the savior and I will follow him to my death" which is the true calling of a Christian.

Directed to Og, you say you do not believe in a literal interpretation of the Bible, I am curious, what is there that you don't take literally, excepting Creationism?

}SoC{Sumguy · 03-28-2007, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by revpo

CHRISTIANS...ATTENTION
Do you follow the blessings and history of the pope's..
If you do look at the holy of leaders in the web page story of the papacy
NEXUS<google search will find it>,
corruption
seduction
female pope
revpo

hence the protestant reformation.

jor.pandolfo · 04-07-2007, 01:32 AM

wow sithlord. you need to stop studying the force or whatever and get real man. I dont believe in the literal sense of the Bible, but I have the utmost respect for its teachings. The lessons the Bible and Jesus preached are words to truly live by. You dont have to believe it. the purpose of any novel or fiction is to shed light on human experiences and to relay a message or lesson to the reader.

Chapstiquelova · 05-22-2007, 07:42 PM

I am a christian but i am not a catholic lol, slight difference.

Chapstiquelova · 05-22-2007, 07:42 PM

well maybe a bit more then slight

Romulus · 05-26-2007, 04:19 PM

Im a Christian as well

yellowsummers · 05-26-2007, 09:45 PM

I disagree with most of the replies, and think what Og's saying makes pretty good sense.

I agree with most of it personally, too. I see Jesus as a pretty cool dude. I wouldn't say that it makes me a christian, but when I take a step back from the bible and blur it a bit I end up with some pretty good stuff.

There are people who stopped studying christianity after they left Sunday School, and they're allowed to identify as Christians. Why is that more valid than this?