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Old 01-24-2008, 07:45 PM   #11 (permalink)
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i read allittle in matthew in a new living transalation bible. can we tell a bad or good tree by the fruit it produces? what do you guys think?
the question for me is .... for whom or what?

wasps, greenfly, fungi, moths, butterflies, birds, bears, us?

so the question likely has a certain anthropomorphic perspective.

so the answer from a scientific point of view is ..... there is no such thing as good or bad in nature?
thats what i was wondering when i read it, good or bad relative to what and also the tree it self might be prefectly fine, but the soil, air, or sunlight can be the real cause. ( tree is used as a metaphor/smile thing to man)
Come on guys don't be stupid. If you read it in the Bible, then you know perfectly well what it is in relation too. Those comments were about as bright as reading the repair manual for a Ford Pick up and then wonder what it is about or what it relates to.
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Old 01-24-2008, 07:58 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Come on guys don't be stupid. If you read it in the Bible, then you know perfectly well what it is in relation too. Those comments were about as bright as reading the repair manual for a Ford Pick up and then wonder what it is about or what it relates to.
That's interesting Dunno..... coming from someone who claims not to be that familiar with the Bible

If I am wrong perhaps you could enlighten us?

looking forward to your reply
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Come on guys don't be stupid. If you read it in the Bible, then you know perfectly well what it is in relation too. Those comments were about as bright as reading the repair manual for a Ford Pick up and then wonder what it is about or what it relates to.
That's interesting Dunno..... coming from someone who claims not to be that familiar with the Bible

If I am wrong perhaps you could enlighten us?

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Me thinks, the tree represents you as a person and the fruit is an analogy for what you have done in your time on this planet, but I could be wrong.
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The use of analogies like that is something that really bugs me. Yes it may be an effective teaching aid for children, but I feel that in general they tend to over-simplify what can be very complex concepts (ie. they promote mental laziness, discourage scrutiny and fail to treat the listener with respect).

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Come on guys don't be stupid. If you read it in the Bible, then you know perfectly well what it is in relation too. Those comments were about as bright as reading the repair manual for a Ford Pick up and then wonder what it is about or what it relates to.
That's interesting Dunno..... coming from someone who claims not to be that familiar with the Bible

If I am wrong perhaps you could enlighten us?

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Ahh all I ever said is that I have not finished reading the Bible yet
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Come on guys don't be stupid. If you read it in the Bible, then you know perfectly well what it is in relation too. Those comments were about as bright as reading the repair manual for a Ford Pick up and then wonder what it is about or what it relates to.
That's interesting Dunno..... coming from someone who claims not to be that familiar with the Bible

If I am wrong perhaps you could enlighten us?

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Me thinks, the tree represents you as a person and the fruit is an analogy for what you have done in your time on this planet, but I could be wrong.
Teh Bible represents salvation pure and simple. Every verse is about salvation Some say I am a Christian and some say I am not. I don't care about any of those.
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The use of analogies like that is something that really bugs me. Yes it may be an effective teaching aid for children, but I feel that in general they tend to over-simplify what can be very complex concepts (ie. they promote mental laziness, discourage scrutiny and fail to treat the listener with respect).

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Yet many many people do noit understand the simple right infront of their face anologys
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Ahh all I ever said is that I have not finished reading the Bible yet
that is a little porky....dishonest?
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Ahh all I ever said is that I have not finished reading the Bible yet
that is a little porky....dishonest?
How so? I have not been dishonest
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