God told women to STFU in church! - Page 2

mister_lister · 05-25-2007, 10:41 PM

Proof is in the pudding. ****ed up book that is interpreted differently by everyone who reads it. Seems pretty ****ing clear to me, Paul was a sexist. If you can't understand that you stayed under to long when baptized. I knew this as a Christian, our fellowships practiced it, to anyone who denies it, they are making excuses Face it your book is a pile of crap!

If you want to learn about the Bible and it's many flaws and transgressions, go here:

http://www.evilbible.com/

Chapstiquelova · 05-25-2007, 11:31 PM

actually im pretty sure it was Paul who preached alongside women.

Romulus · 05-26-2007, 01:46 PM

lol Ive never heard that befor Chap but you might be right.

Mister Lister dont cast judgement until you know all the details of the situation when what was said was said.

Because you cannot know the meaning of what was said until you do. Often times things seem what they arent.. If you live listening to only the first thing said you will miss the vast majority of what actually happened or is happening and what you do hear will be biased.

milligal · 05-26-2007, 03:18 PM

Yes but women were allowed to be business owners and purchase property at this time-so where do you get that they were less educated?

There is no valid reason Paul should have singled out women (he could have singled out any group of people he wanted without blanketly opposing women's role in the congregation). I agree with the previous post by MarthaGod if the Bible is from God then why would it be culturally biased?

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Originally Posted by Romulus

In the reference you guys are talking about i believe Paul was refering to a group that was out to get the church and so they would disrupt services using women asking questions in the service. Also at the time from my understanding women werent as educated as the men so they would ask questions that theyr husbands understood perfectly well. So Paul, in order to keep the service running smoothly, wanted them to ask theyr husbands.

Chapstiquelova · 05-26-2007, 03:18 PM

Alot in the bible, it speaks of "what and how " women were treated, and told to live, rather than God making them.....
and Rum, I'm pretty sure it was Paul..I'll confirm that here in a lil while.

Chapstiquelova · 05-26-2007, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by milligal

Yes but women were allowed to be business owners and purchase property at this time-so where do you get that they were less educated?

There is no valid reason Paul should have singled out women (he could have singled out any group of people he wanted without blanketly opposing women's role in the congregation). I agree with the previous post by MarthaGod if the Bible is from God then why would it be culturally biased?

And yes i'm pretty surewomen could be buisness owners and such. But RUM, was saying in the CHURCH.

milligal · 05-26-2007, 06:24 PM

Well if they were treated equally in the business world....then why weren't they in the church? If they were as capable as any many to run a business or buy land, why did Paul treat them as though they were not capable of asking questions in the congregation?

Actually Paul did reference women praying and said they should not pray in a man's presence unless wearing a head covering-that has everything to do with what he taught was a woman's 'subjective' role to man and nothing to do with their educational status.

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Originally Posted by Chapstiquelova

And yes i'm pretty surewomen could be buisness owners and such. But RUM, was saying in the CHURCH.

Chapstiquelova · 05-26-2007, 06:44 PM

The world of money is TOTALY different than the world of God.
and can i have a reference i would like to look it up pleaze...Thanx

milligal · 05-26-2007, 09:43 PM

This study from the University of Chicago represents some of the rights of ancient women in Egypt. I still feel as though my question to you is unanswered. Why would 'God' or the congregation if it is acting in the name of God treat women as less than equal inside the congregation when imperfect men treated them as equal in other aspects of day to day life?

This teaching would in fact speak to God being sexist. Instead I think that the writers of certain Bible passages were sexist and in fact the Bible is not entirely representative of a perfect Godly figure for worship.

http://oi.uchicago.edu/OI/DEPT/RA/OB...PROP_TEXT.HTML

"there was no differentiation between women and men in terms of political rights in the sense that both sexes were equally subject to the Romans. But the release of land to ownership by women conferred on them a share equal to men's share in the chief means of production"

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Originally Posted by Chapstiquelova

The world of money is TOTALY different than the world of God.
and can i have a reference i would like to look it up pleaze...Thanx

mister_lister · 05-27-2007, 01:05 AM

Great. Divergent opinion. Soon you will all be agnostic. Just continue down this road and you will eventually question if God even exists. THAT is what I HOPE for you. Disect that stupid book and come to all the different conclusions you want. Hold on to them, because they will define you as an individual.

So far I haven't seen a REAL Christian on this web site. All I have seen are individuals, all with varying opinion, lots of opinion.

To be honest, real Christians would not waste their time arguing the finer points of their religion - they would be to busy DOING things for KINGDOM rather than TALKING about the KINGDOM.

And by the way I WILL JUDGE. I am not a Christian, I don't follow stupid rules the church interprets that tell me not to DISCERN fact from fiction, hypocrit from follower of Christ, crappy teaching from good teaching, and good person from bad.