"the bible and it's many flaws"

Brandon · 08-30-2006, 10:56 AM

Since the subtitle of this category is "Discussion of the bible and it's many flaws and why people still choose to believe", I was wondering what flaws you were referring to? Do you know of any instances of flaws that you can point out?

Lyricb · 08-30-2006, 02:36 PM

I think that many people interpret the Bible in so many different ways that they claim there are inherent flaws within. Personally, I think the Bible is a great tool for life, and a sort of love letter from God. I also think, however, that very soon my post will be followed by someone citing examples, so I look forward to seeing what they have to say.

**SithLord** · 09-02-2006, 12:07 PM

Someone asked for examples?

1 word. Dinosaurs.

Wait wait here's another: Neandrathal man and cave drawings.

You would think giant man eating lizards running around would get a little mention in the bible wouldn't you? Alas there is no mention because dinosaurs existed and vanished before man even knew how to spell Bible.

Classic flaw and proof that the bible was written by men not God and that that fact alone makes it inherently flawed never mind the countless times it's been rewritten and reinterepreted to fit whatever religious leader's needs.

Religion is a tool. A tool used to control the masses. The bible is but one facet or function of that tool.

Lyricb · 09-02-2006, 03:01 PM

That's a good point, SithLord, although the lack of stuff about dinosaurs in the Bible doesn't mean that they never existed. And who is to say that Adam and Eve weren't Neanderthals, happily scribbling on walls?

**SithLord** · 09-02-2006, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Lyricb

That's a good point, SithLord, although the lack of stuff about dinosaurs in the Bible doesn't mean that they never existed.

You're right it doesn't mean they never existed because we know they did. I can walk into any museum with dinosaur fossils and prove that. The point is teh bible didn't know they existed and was obviously written without that knowledge. A flaw.

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And who is to say that Adam and Eve weren't Neanderthals, happily scribbling on walls?

Ironically... the bible.

The way the bible is written Adam and Eve were created with the full use of language and writing. So the fact that neandrathal man could barely make cave drawings let alone speak illustrates yet another of the many flaws in the bible. It's too easy to point them out. I could do this all day.

ninikins · 09-03-2006, 05:20 AM

As a kid I used to ask my teacher who the author of the bible was cos he os she made a good sum. Sometimes I still wonder

Lyricb · 09-03-2006, 02:26 PM

SithLord, I hear what you're saying, and I understand your point of view. I wasn't saying that dinosaurs never existed, I'm just saying that just because mention wasn't made of their existence in the Bible that doesn't mean Christians think they never existed. As far as the Adam and Eve business, using the phrase "the way the Bible is written..." is indicative of an interpretation. I see where you're coming from in all your ideas, but no counterpoints will shake my faith.

DizzyDee · 09-09-2006, 11:24 AM

There is a reference to dragons in the bible and a lot of christians believe that dragons is a reference to dinosaurs. I've talked to some christians who believe that humans and dinosaurs lived together and that carbon dating is so off that the world is only about 6000 - 8000 years old. I just shake my head at that one.

Hellacious · 09-10-2006, 05:04 PM

Has anybody read the book What God Wants by Neale Donald Walsch? Read chapter 13..that says it all!

**George** · 09-10-2006, 09:42 PM

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There is a reference to dragons in the bible and a lot of christians believe that dragons is a reference to dinosaurs. I've talked to some christians who believe that humans and dinosaurs lived together and that carbon dating is so off that the world is only about 6000 - 8000 years old. I just shake my head at that one.

You mean this passage:

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“No one is so fierce that he would dare stir him up.”
“Who can open the doors of his face, with his terrible teeth all around?”
“His rows of scales are his pride, shut up tightly as with a seal; one is so near another that no air can come between them; they are joined one to another, they stick together and cannot be parted.”
“His sneezings flash forth light, and his eyes are like the eyelids of the morning. Out of his mouth go burning lights; sparks of fire shoot out. Smoke goes out of his nostrils, as from a boiling pot and burning rushes. His breath kindles coals, and a flame goes out of his mouth.”
“Though the sword reaches him, it cannot avail; nor does spear, dart, or javelin. He regards iron as straw, and bronze as rotten wood. The arrow cannot make him flee; slingstones become like stubble to him. Darts are regarded as straw; he laughs at the threat of javelins.”
“On earth there is nothing like him, which is made without fear.”
Leviathan “played” in the “great and wide sea” (a paraphrase of Psalm 104 verses 25 and 26—get the exact sense by reading them yourself).
Leviathan is a “reptile* that is in the sea.” (Isaiah 27:1)

*Note: The word translated “reptile” here is the Hebrew word tanniyn. This shows that “Leviathan” was also a “tanniyn” (dragon)."

You see they aren't describing dinosaurs. The word Tanninyn translates into dragon, because that's what they are describing. A fire breathing dragon...

Now don't get me wrong, you place that in the context of a book about mythical beings, heaven and hell, demons, "miracles", parting a sea so people can walk through it, men walking on water, and an endless burning bush and mythical fire breathing dragons kinda fit. I mean heck early historic man blamed a great many things and told a great many stories on God and his awesome power. Why not throw in a fire breathing dragon or 2?