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Originally Posted by Brandon Sorry to disagree pale, but the Bible that we read today (NIV, ESV, or NASB) are not derived from the King James. Each of these three translations were translated from the ORIGINAL texts written in Greek and Hebrew and are dated to back to the first century. These are the first hand accounts that we are looking at and those are what was translated into English. When you realise this, you'll see the margin for error becomes much smaller. |
sorry to disappoint you Brandon. While you are correct that the NIV, ESV or NASB are not derived from the King James version, but original texts written in Greek and Hebrew, they do not all date to the first century. The earliest version of the four gospels is about 120 AD (I believe it is Mark) still is not a "first hand" account of the events that acually took place. If you have sources that say otherwise, other than christian seculation I would be please to read them. Also the King James version was still translated from Greek and Hebrew as well, just not from as many sources as the NIV.
From this website:
The Background of the New International Version Bible "The Greek text used in translating the New Testament was an eclectic one. No other piece of ancient literature has such an abundance of manuscript witnesses as does the New Testament. Where existing manuscripts differ, the translators made their choice of readings according to accepted principles of New Testaments textual criticism. Footnotes call attention to places where there was uncertainty about what the original text was. The best current printed texts of the Greek New Testaments were used."
They used over 5000 sources for the translation - and no where do they claim to use first hand accounts. Even if some of the stories in the bible are true, the source documents are nowhere near first-hand accounts - which leaves a lot of room for error.
From this website:
Are the Biblical Documents Reliable? "There are more than 4,000 different ancient Greek manuscripts containing all or portions of the New Testament that have survived to our time." Perhaps the earliest piece of [New Testament]
Scripture surviving is a fragment of a papyrus codex containing John 18:31-33 and 37. It is called the Rylands Papyrus (P52) and dates from 130 A.D., having been found in Egypt. The Rylands Papyrus has forced the critics to place the fourth gospel back into the first century, abandoning their earlier assertion that it could not have been written then by the Apostle John.{7}
I still think it is unreasonable to assume that John was still the author of a document created at a time when John would have been around 120 years old. Although I will admit that it may have been a copy of a copy of John's work. You can believe what you want about the Bible, but if the earliest source documents date to 130 AD, chances are very little that the stories we read in the Bible we have today are a "first hand accounts."
Ps. Yes, I've read the entire Bible.