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04-23-2008, 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by debdodd okay ..... I gotta ask .... since you don't know much about US/Canadian relations ... where are you posting from?
| oh i know we're at peace and it doesn't seem we're at odds with each other, i just don't know alot of the details, like how our economys come together and demographics and perception of american and what not by canadians, i have my own experiences of what people think of canada, its not much though. im from the midwest, im just not sure of some information and how it ties together to form how we interact. i know theres a french region in canada, quebec i think and they have free healthcare(high taxes to i think). i got some of the basics, i've been on a fishing trip up there before, its pretty. and they have an alsome rathskeller in some town i can't remember the name of.
i actually would say i don't know alot about alot of things, but i know the basics of quite a bit it seems to me.
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04-23-2008, 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by debdodd Quote:
Originally Posted by greywolf90 Quote:
Originally Posted by debdodd Quote:
Originally Posted by greywolf90 by the way, i predict that McCain will win the 2008 presidential election, so if i am right, you must acknowledge me as your prophet  |  okay too funny!!! but by your logic those that say hell will freeze over if Hillary wins .... do I go and buy ice skates just in case? | yes and make sure you have plenty of blankets; don't forget the hot chocolate!  as for me, i won't go anywhere without my scarf and ear muffs if hillary wins. | I know this is off topic but since I refuse to respond to anything Abel says and I address this to everyone else (I refuse to feed the trolls that Duck mentions and told Abel on another thread why I refuse to get into a battle of wits with an unarmed man  anyway back to what I was gonna ask  )
my question is ....... is it true Obama refused to put his hand over his heart and say the pledge of allegiance? since we were talking about hell freezing over etc.  | i never heard about that... would that make hell even colder?
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04-23-2008, 08:28 PM
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Could you highlight some of the predictions that have not come to pass?
Or are there none?
Just a thought .... do the winners write history?
It's tough to be certain about yesterday, nevermind, say, seventy years ago with the build up to WWII.
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04-23-2008, 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by shadowind Quote:
Originally Posted by debdodd okay ..... I gotta ask .... since you don't know much about US/Canadian relations ... where are you posting from?
| oh i know we're at peace and it doesn't seem we're at odds with each other, i just don't know a lot of the details, like how our economys come together and demographics and perception of american and what not by canadians, i have my own experiences of what people think of canada, its not much though. im from the midwest, im just not sure of some information and how it ties together to form how we interact. i know theres a french region in canada, quebec i think and they have free healthcare(high taxes to i think). i got some of the basics, i've been on a fishing trip up there before, its pretty. and they have an alsome rathskeller in some town i can't remember the name of.
i actually would say i don't know alot about alot of things, but i know the basics of quite a bit it seems to me. | One thing you'll find out about Canada (which you already know a little about) is that Quebec is it's own little world .... they seem to identify more with the French than their English masters .... I love Canadians ... when I travel out of the country I say I'm from Canada .. everyone loves Canadians ... you say you're from the US and they will treat you like crap (sometimes) but never if you claim yourself a Canadian ... it's worked every time
The older you get and the more you travel you will see how people are more alike than they will admit ... no matter where you live ,,, Russia to Timbuktu ... all parents want the same thing ... safety for their children ... during different stages of your life you/we want certain things ... once you become a parent ... you just want a safe and happy place to raise your kids and a better future for them ... up until then a person usually stays more focus on there own little section of the world .... they focus on friends, fun .. then "POOF" one day you have this little bundle that is totally dependant on you and you go all gooey on the inside and you are forever changed .... but then that's just how I see it as a Mom ....
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04-23-2008, 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by romansh Abel
Could you highlight some of the predictions that have not come to pass?
Or are there none? | You just had to ask him ...... now we'll get more links to scripture, more postulating ..... eeekkkkk  (but I have to admit that was a damn good question!) Duck said .... no more feeding the trolls! 
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04-23-2008, 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by debdodd Quote:
Originally Posted by romansh Abel
Could you highlight some of the predictions that have not come to pass?
Or are there none? | You just had to ask him ...... now we'll get more links to scripture, more postulating ..... eeekkkkk  (but I have to admit that was a damn good question!) Duck said .... no more feeding the trolls!  | It was a good question. 
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04-23-2008, 09:59 PM
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| Deb ... it's OK
this is Abel's thread, we don't have spend time on it.
Abel has been nothing but respectful, and some seem to enjoy debating scripture. I care little for the literal interpretation of the Bible, for that is a house built on sand. I susect the Bible contain many interesting truths if only we can let go of the literalism and interpret a la Joseph Campbell.
He's testing himself here to see if he and we are worthy?
Would you not want to put up at least some token resistence?
I disagree with duck ... Abel is not a troll. Misguided perhaps?
time for a drink!
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04-23-2008, 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by romansh Deb ... it's OK
Abel has been nothing but respectful, I absolutely disagree ... he's condescending to me all the time .... offering hugs and yucky stuff ...
He's testing himself here to see if he and we are worthy? Probably
Would you not want to put up at least some token resistence? No .... Og is away and I won't have to pay the piper until he comes back besides I don't want to play nice with Pooh .... I have decided I do not like him and he has boy cooties ... resistance is futile .... he must roll over, capitulate and cry out "uncle" before it's too late ... nope, no resistance out of him required .....
I disagree with duck ... Abel is not a troll. Misguided perhaps? I also disagree with Duck he is not a troll he is cat Pooh and icky
time for a drink! Nope, no drink time for me ... I'm beginning to write silly things so I need to get my goofy butt to bed .... see ya' around the funny farm! |
Goodnight Juris, nightie-night Duck ..... to the rest of you ..... that's all folks!! 
__________________ "Ubi dubium ibi libertas."
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04-24-2008, 08:45 AM
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04-24-2008, 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by romansh Abel
Could you highlight some of the predictions that have not come to pass?
Or are there none?
Just a thought .... do the winners write history?
It's tough to be certain about yesterday, nevermind, say, seventy years ago with the build up to WWII. | Romansh
Yes, there are several prophecies that have not been fulfilled. I recently read an article that stated that out of approximately 2,500 prophecies in the Bible, around 2,000 have been fulfilled. These stats are from Dr. Hugh Ross Ph.D. at the website www.reasons.org.
The remaining 500 or so unfilled prophecies are still yet to come, and most are in reference to the rapture of the church, and the second coming of Christ.
So what is the significance of fulfilled prophecy? If roughly 80% of prophecy has been fulfilled, to the letter, the probability of the remaining 20% being fulfilled exactly as foretold is very high. High enough in fact that we can trust the Bible as reliable.
Hopefully, this helps. |
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