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Old 04-23-2008, 12:31 PM   #11 (permalink)
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by the way, i predict that McCain will win the 2008 presidential election, so if i am right, you must acknowledge me as your prophet

okay too funny!!! but by your logic those that say hell will freeze over if Hillary wins .... do I go and buy ice skates just in case?
yes and make sure you have plenty of blankets; don't forget the hot chocolate! as for me, i won't go anywhere without my scarf and ear muffs if hillary wins.

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i'm not sure that you are seeing my point. i can say that canada will some day invade the USA (calculate those odds) and if i'm somehow right, this does not mean god told me so.
I do see your point, and based only on your one simple prediction, you would be right. But let's take your example of Canada invading the U.S. and give it Biblical proportions. Tell me in what year that will happen; tell me exactly where they will cross the border; tell me the minute details of the battles; tell me the exact name of the man that will lead the invasion; tell me when or if the U.S. will regain it's independence; tell me if U.S. citizens will ever be reunited as one country.

If you are able to provide these details, then I would be impressed. Prophecies fulfilled in such detail are found in the Bible hundreds of years before they actually occured. Hopefully, you now see my point.
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Old 04-23-2008, 12:39 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Here's another example of exact prophecy:
One prophet of God (unnamed, but probably Shemiah) said that a future king of Judah, named Josiah, would take the bones of all the occultic priests (priests of the "high places") of Israel's King Jeroboam and burn them on Jeroboam's altar (I Kings 13:2 and II Kings 23:15-18). This event occurred approximately 300 years after it was foretold.

(Probability of chance fulfillment = 1 in 10 to the power of 13).
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Old 04-23-2008, 12:50 PM   #13 (permalink)
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by the way, i predict that McCain will win the 2008 presidential election, so if i am right, you must acknowledge me as your prophet

okay too funny!!! but by your logic those that say hell will freeze over if Hillary wins .... do I go and buy ice skates just in case?
yes and make sure you have plenty of blankets; don't forget the hot chocolate! as for me, i won't go anywhere without my scarf and ear muffs if hillary wins.
I know this is off topic but since I refuse to respond to anything Abel says and I address this to everyone else (I refuse to feed the trolls that Duck mentions and told Abel on another thread why I refuse to get into a battle of wits with an unarmed man anyway back to what I was gonna ask)

my question is ....... is it true Obama refused to put his hand over his heart and say the pledge of allegiance? since we were talking about hell freezing over etc.
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Old 04-23-2008, 12:53 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Ooof.

I had a really insulting and witty reply to this thread, and decided not to feed the trolls.
Very smart not to feed the trolls ... it only encourages 'em ....

notice how nicely he baited people b/c they didn't respond to his original post .... seems like he challenges them by implying they're "chickens" by saying ... "no takers" .... told you guys in another thread ... ignore him you only encourage the trolls out there ... Deb
Notice how nicely she ignores the issue? Notice how she has nothing of value to say on this subject? Instead of heeding her own advice and ignoring these posts she feels inclined to interject her mockery. She still needs a hug.
okay .... I can't resist ... I may need a hug but you ned a colonoscopy to wade thru all the BS you put out ... BTW do you know what "hug a root" means? you need to "hug a root" ....
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Old 04-23-2008, 01:31 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Ooof.

I had a really insulting and witty reply to this thread, and decided not to feed the trolls.
Very smart not to feed the trolls ... it only encourages 'em ....

notice how nicely he baited people b/c they didn't respond to his original post .... seems like he challenges them by implying they're "chickens" by saying ... "no takers" .... told you guys in another thread ... ignore him you only encourage the trolls out there ... Deb
Notice how nicely she ignores the issue? Notice how she has nothing of value to say on this subject? Instead of heeding her own advice and ignoring these posts she feels inclined to interject her mockery. She still needs a hug.
okay .... I can't resist ... I may need a hug but you ned a colonoscopy to wade thru all the BS you put out ... BTW do you know what "hug a root" means? you need to "hug a root" ....
Again, nothing of value. Nothing but vulgar insults. Yeah, I am familiar with that phrase. It was very popular and used by all the kids when I was about 12years old. However, something happened to me over the last 30 years that caused me to forget that statement ... I grew up.

I believe it was you who referred to me as cat poo and said that when you wearied of toying with me you would discard me as such. You also told me to "Begone little Christian". Funny how things have changed. I am now weary of you. I am trying to discuss my beliefs, and stating evidence to support my beliefs. If you cannot offer anything meaningful, then Begone, Deb, begone...
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then we have an accord christian cat pooh .... you will ignore me and I will ignore you ... God knows I've tried to ignore you ....

I believe my postings excluded you and were only to greywolf and duck ....

so favor me with your disdain and ignore me ........ stop trying to antagonize me when I do not get involved with your rhetoric ...

so onward christian soldier pooh ...I will never begone Pooh .... never ever .... you will go before me .... bye Pooh!
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I do see your point, and based only on your one simple prediction, you would be right. But let's take your example of Canada invading the U.S. and give it Biblical proportions. Tell me in what year that will happen; tell me exactly where they will cross the border; tell me the minute details of the battles; tell me the exact name of the man that will lead the invasion; tell me when or if the U.S. will regain it's independence; tell me if U.S. citizens will ever be reunited as one country.
whats the most common names of canada and nameing trends?
whats the current relationships between canada such as oil, food, ext
whats the likly defense stations along the borders? whats the trends in technology warefare? give me the trends and i will be able to better tell liklyhoods.

my guess is that someone called michael and maby another called garcia is going to be important officers in a future war, maby
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I do see your point, and based only on your one simple prediction, you would be right. But let's take your example of Canada invading the U.S. and give it Biblical proportions. Tell me in what year that will happen; tell me exactly where they will cross the border; tell me the minute details of the battles; tell me the exact name of the man that will lead the invasion; tell me when or if the U.S. will regain it's independence; tell me if U.S. citizens will ever be reunited as one country.
whats the most common names of canada and nameing trends?
whats the current relationships between canada such as oil, food, ext
whats the likly defense stations along the borders? whats the trends in technology warefare? give me the trends and i will be able to better tell liklyhoods.

my guess is that someone called michael and maby another called garcia is going to be important officers in a future war, maby
It is your responsibility to supply the details, not mine. You're the prophet in this Scenario. You can't guess either, be specific. Are you begining to see the difficulties in accurate prophecy?
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just trying to say that if someone knows the trends and the trends trends they could potentially make it more likly that their predictions will come true.
michael and garcia are popular names now i believe.
i don't know much about canada, or even america and canadian relations
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okay ..... I gotta ask .... since you don't know much about US/Canadian relations ... where are you posting from?



I so wish folks would let the rest of us know what country they are posting from ... it helps with the ... I guess it would sometimes help explain a difference in perception that people have ... you know what I mean??
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