debdodd

never said you didn't have a heart .....

I commend you for staying in your friend's kids lives .... men have a very important role to play in a developing child's life ... they need both males and female teachings to be well rounded individuals .... some women can teach the male portions and males the female .... just depends on the person.

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"Ubi dubium ibi libertas."

"We are all lone souls. It pays to know humility, lest the delusion of control, of mastery, overwhelms. And indeed, we seem a species prone to that delusion, again and ever again ....."

Composer

I am absolutely certain that the Lord Jesus chose 12 men as his apostles and not 6 men and 6 women for no other reason than he would have been crucified far earlier by the prevailing patriarchal societies.

It is obvious that women had an equal place in the original church Christ initiated but that fact was suppressed by those males who wanted that fact suppressed for their own selfish, patriarchal reasons. If one really searches the Scriptures and the facts of Christ's new order, there was NO sexual discrimination what so ever. I refer to Gal. 3:28 as glaring evidence attesting to that.

Thank you

debdodd

what about the gospel of Mary?

it was a male dominated society but it seemed to me that Jesus did not suffer from female discrimination .... some of the apostles were angry because of Jesus' love of Mary ....

I blame the Roman Catholic popes for the continued suppression of women in that time. I think the Muslims are continuing in the Roman Popes footpath and denying their women enlightenment. I don't get this whole testosterone dominance thing .... must be a carry over to our basic neanderthal conditioning.....

Don't misunderstand me I am not a feminist who demands that things need to be changed immediately! right this very minute! force every change this instant! but I like the progress that has occurred and want those changes to continue not only for women, but races as well ....

until that time there will always be someone who is the "underdog", the oppressed but progress is being made .... I just don't like the whole "cram it down someones throat" or else rhetoric ...

at one time women were revered for their ability to create life, to breast feed that child until old enough to help with the gathering of food with the others ... it's sad that there are still some places in the world that do not see women for the life force giving that they do (albeit with a little help from you guys) ....

the rape of African women and their young daughters sickens me, the same as what happened in eastern Europe .... men start the wars and the women get the remainder of the fall out .... oh well, enough for me now .... I don't want to become maudlin and blame you poor men for everything ....

Have a good day composer ... regards, Deb

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"Ubi dubium ibi libertas."

"We are all lone souls. It pays to know humility, lest the delusion of control, of mastery, overwhelms. And indeed, we seem a species prone to that delusion, again and ever again ....."

GX

I know that Deb and I wasnt accusing you of saying that, I was just making a general point that some of us oinkers can still have heart.

Thanks Deb. Guiding not only children but one another is the most important function on the planet. We are all one and thats all we have is each other.

On an unrelated note, which of the following is correct for you:
beelzebub-ette
or
beelzebubub-ette

You currently have the latter posted on your username yet your following comment indicates the former

debdodd

who knows what I was thinking at the time ... I was head goofball before that ... I only know that he is one of those crazy christians that McCain and even Obama are running from as fast as they can ..... the over the line ones ...

just 'cause I love you I will correct it!

BTW, speaking of little piggies .... did you see CNN yesterday when they followed the tornado with close ups? It was awesome ..... they were showing this tornado hit this huge hog farm ..... pigs were flying every where ... does that indicate that I need to straighten my act up 'cause I did say I would change a few things when "pigs flew" .... all joking aside look it on you-tube or something.

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"Ubi dubium ibi libertas."

"We are all lone souls. It pays to know humility, lest the delusion of control, of mastery, overwhelms. And indeed, we seem a species prone to that delusion, again and ever again ....."

romansh

hey ... I always preferred goddess ... can't fantasize about goofballs and 'ettes. Goddesses, now we are talking.

Anyway always loved reading about John Mortimer's Rumpole, for Horace was married to Hilda, She Who Must Be Obeyed.

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debdodd

I won't be calliing myself Hilda anytime soon .......... doesn't fit me ...

__________________
"Ubi dubium ibi libertas."

"We are all lone souls. It pays to know humility, lest the delusion of control, of mastery, overwhelms. And indeed, we seem a species prone to that delusion, again and ever again ....."

romansh

Ah well. If it's OK with you, when they let me choose my own title, I'll choose Brunhilda. Apparently it means armoured woman warrior.
It's about time I got in touch with my feminine side.

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debdodd

sounds like GX's kind of woman!

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"Ubi dubium ibi libertas."

"We are all lone souls. It pays to know humility, lest the delusion of control, of mastery, overwhelms. And indeed, we seem a species prone to that delusion, again and ever again ....."

GX

Oh yeah! I always liked the independent women with a fire under her instead of those clingy, needy types that look to men to make 'em whole. This is not to say that a woman cant be vulnerable or cuddly or playfully affectionate around me, she's just got to have that "strong independent fire" at her source AND when she...

Thanks for the sentiment and correction Deb! Back at ya!

No, I didnt see that CNN video about the pigs but would like to. I tried finding it on you tube by searching for "tornado flying pigs" but couldnt find it. Hopefully someone will post it soon. Im sure it had some kind of surreal wizard of oz quality to it.