Jacob

Shaun,

Allow me to enlighten you on the meaning of the Latin term "ad hominem".

"You are a religious zealot who angrily lashes out at those who oppose your beliefs. You have been brainwashed by one of the christian religions. Therefore, you think that only a christian-based opinion matters."

That's "ad hominem"; and it's probably the truth as well.


Jacob

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They only take on meaning
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Dunno

Hey, thats a neat way to insult someone. Do you mind if I copy that and use it on Geshti?

Dunno

I will do a second post instead of adding to my last one as I forgot to ask some of these questions. 1) is Jacob you say Shaun lashed out angrily but where did you see that? his last reply even though he handed you your butt in that post he did not post an angry smiliey or TYPE IN ALL CAPS like most do B) Why do you say he is Wrainbashed when hios post was clear and concise and I found it very informative. and lastly 4th) is why would you say all that stuff and then say it is possibly the truth? are you not sure of yourself? Just wondering

tommi atkins

Big Brother may be alive and well. He has convinced thousands of everyday citizans and rescue workers to see a building (WTC 7) hit by tens of thousands of tons of flying rubble from the other towers, set on fire and finally collapse, when it's so clear that after the holograpic collection of planes filled with ficticious people and piloted by the CIA "flew" into the towers, this was the moment for Mossad to explode the charges. They celebrated by dancing outside wearing their black hats and chanting the torah, glorying in the privatisation begun in 1998 and completed in july.....sweet mercy.

If that still seems logical to you, then im very happy for you.
But try to keep it to yourself, two reasons, 1) the CIA will come for YOU man! Like , theyre totally EVRYWHERE!, and 2) Real people died that day, and Tinfoil crap just tramples their memory and distresses the families.

Telimaktar

This shows comparisons across many different bibles of the same verses.

Old Translation: KJV
Newer: NASB

Most christians do not do research into the Hebraic words behind the english translated bible. Therefore going into such detail will not prove valid in this context even though it might prove you in correct in a sense.


Dictionary:
Calamity: An event resulting in great loss and misfortune (natural disasters)
Evil: 1.Morally objectionable behaviour (doing wrong)
2.That which causes harm or destruction or misfortune (natural disasters)
3.The quality of being morally wrong in*principle or practice

These examples in brackets are the images that I typically get with regards to the word. Other people might get something different.

While there is a similarity the word Calamity sounds far more "natural"(good, far lesser evil) than saying Evil (satan, hitler)
These two words paint very different images in the mind.

My point goes beyond the scope of the "Evil God" thing and that one line, I am pointing out the fact that many words have been translated so differenty that it makes the validity of the bible very hard to prove, too many powerful figures throughout history have been able to tamper with it.

Jacob

If you check out permalink #32 on this thread, you will see that he clearly suggests that I am immature. I do not think that because he has a little knowledge about the bible ( a book that I consider to be riddled with preposterous fables) that this entitles him to slam my character. I ignored his position on Leviticus 11:6 because the bible got it wrong; misinterpreted or not. I do not wish to go on about it.


Jacob

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Religions, movements and even nations
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They only take on meaning
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Jacob

tommi atkins,

I do not want to distress the families of the victims of 9/11. The fact of the matter is that many of them wish to have a fair, impartial investigation of the 9/11 events as well.

Squibs can be seen (with a keen eye) emanating from all 3 falling buildings on the original news footage aired by the major networks, Squibs are puffs of smoke normally associated with a controlled demolition.

I think that a clever, subversive group besides Al Queda was responsible for the 9/11 tragedies and I think that Americans deserve to know the truth.


Jacob

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Religions, movements and even nations
are constructs invented by humans.

They only take on meaning
if humanity chooses to accept them.

tommi atkins

Any Squibs is the first burst of the outside of the towers breaking under its own weight.
If your an agnostic, simply take a step back and look at the evidence and the science.

I beleive that the authoritys could have acted better on the day, mayby even up to the hollywood blockbuster standards expected. But they diddnt. GWB flapped around, none was immediatly contactable, the contingencys fell apart and there has been silence and cover ups. Some relatives want any government error exposed. Perhaps one or two think that Lizard's with mind-bullets did it for Walt Disney and demand teh troof(TM)....but we can discount them as the community-dwelling insane.

This cant disguise that the planes hit the freaking buildings and that they brought them down and that Al Quada admitted doing the freaking thing.

The truth is that after many many years of books and films making the USA into a all powerful all knowing entity that is tapping your phones and watching you whilst you take a dump by infra Xray satellites and putting trillions into alien technology, its hard for some people to understand that there are some Koranic Literalists who get wood when Americans die, and 9/11 was their orgasm.

Americas hollywood invunrability was realised as just the movies and Islam slunk deeper into its self-throttleing.

At the end of the day, you'll beleive as ye wish, and verily may it filleth thou boots. But I'll happily take any 9/11 tinfoil point you like and sink it.

Jacob

tommi atkins,

You make good points and there's a possibility that you might even be right about some of them; afterall I'm not a scientist. However, I do find it odd that documentaries like National Geographic's version of the 9/11 events go to great lengths to edit out these squibs.


Jacob

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Religions, movements and even nations
are constructs invented by humans.

They only take on meaning
if humanity chooses to accept them.

Jacob

The accounts in the bible and the official 9/11 story are similar in that the viewpoints of both seem to be forced upon people by using fear tactics. It's no secret that christianity was early on presented to all of Europe at the point of a sword; and as far as the 9/11 events are concerned, well, we're here to witness that for ourselves.

I do not believe in the God that supposedly showed up one day as fire on top of a mountain, I do not believe in the guy that supposedly walked on top of the water and I am very skeptical about the official 9/11 story. I don't really think that my viewpoints qualify me for others to assume that I wear a tin foil hat.


Jacob

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Religions, movements and even nations
are constructs invented by humans.

They only take on meaning
if humanity chooses to accept them.