neverforever

So did mary have a say in the matter of getting impregnated by god. Or was it forced upon her like hmm should i say the word ........rape.

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Yes i agree the bible is a history book.
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So stop using the bible as proof

romansh

Hi neverforever

Can you explain the purpose of this thread?
I suspect like me you do not particularly believe in the bible?
So why are you asking?

all the best

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duck

To be honest, I've always wondered that question myself.

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romansh

Hi Duck .... no time long see

I must admit I have never laid awake at nights and wondered did god rape Mary and how did she feel about it?

Funnily enough there is an Iranian movie that touches on this... if you go to Lecter's thread on the Muslim Jesus, there is a, I think a BBC (British anyway), commentary on Jesus and how revered Mary is in Islam. There are few snippets implying that Mary believed people would have a hard time accepting her.

So if you are interested in this question I would be interested to hear your thoughts and opinions.

all the best

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duck

Thank you for the information. Like you, I haven't lain awake at night puzzling this paradox, but have often wondered just what would be the Judean view of this in her time would have been.

Thanks for the information, I will try to remember to look it up sometime soon. I am working a very, very time consuming schedule this year, and have very little time to launch into independent research topics as I have in times past.

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romansh

thanks for the "lain" ....it did not come to me

I always was a disappoinment to my English teacher
I tried hard though....

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Vinterland

Well, was there consent or not? Google is your friend.

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Lecter

For someone to be raped there has to be some sort of sexual activity involved, so to answer your question, no, of course she was not raped.

The equivalent of a baby growing in your womb is like a tumor growing in your brain for example. Would you consider it rape if someone had a tumor growing in them? Of course not.

Also if we're speaking hypothetically, Mary was a girl devoted to God, worshiping him all the time. One would think she would obey God no matter what.

Anyways if she didn't want the baby she could have just said no or went to an abortion clinic but she didn't do neither.

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neverforever

It was a question that just kind of popped in my head yesterday I was like did god give mary a choice.
O so Jesus is a tumor

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They'll know were agnostic by our brains.

Making more Christians one brainwashing at a time.

Yes i agree the bible is a history book.
Remember history books don't prove history they tell it.
So stop using the bible as proof

Lecter

Ha, that's not what I said. But if you think about what a tumor really is, it's kinda similar.

From Wikipedia:
"Tumor or tumour (via Old French tumour from Latin tumor "swelling") is an abnormal growth or mass of tissue."

Having a baby grow in your womb without a man touching you is kinda abnormal, wouldn't you say?

Anyways, my point was that Mary wasn't raped, that's the whole point behind her miracle. Getting pregnant without any man touching her.

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