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Holy Texts & Dogma What's with all these books that people bet their lives on? This forum is all about dogma and reasons for circular arguments.



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Old 11-30-2006, 07:08 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Yea I cant stand those people, but don't get me wrong either. I can't beleive everything that the Bible says about Christ or god because as far as we know deceiful people could have rewritten it and such. I do not deny the existence, but I dont beleive either way...
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Old 11-30-2006, 08:53 PM   #32 (permalink)
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So who is right you or the stuffy old christians?

I can't believe you used the word enlightened to describe people who believe there is an all powerful being in the sky who gives a rat's butt about us and our prayers.
you know, there are these things called tact and respect and politeness and civility...
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Old 11-30-2006, 08:55 PM   #33 (permalink)
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Well that's called flaming. I might not beleive in god but at least I dont make stupid comments like that about people who do...
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you know, there are these things called tact and respect and politeness and civility...

It's okay, let them say what they like, I'm a Christian and nothing offends us in the slightest :)
Jesus said:-"Whoever speaks a word against me shall be forgiven" (Luke 12:10)
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But that's still ridiculous, I very much doubt that this site was intended to bash christians. I think it's very important to keep an open mind when dealing with different religions. Sithlord, perhaps you could keep the insensitive comments to yourself?
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Let me explain-religeous beliefs are just that, they are BELIEFS. They are based on FAITH. Faith is having a belief that is not necessarily based on any scientific proof. So, arguements that there is no proof of something, will do nothing to sway the believer. Also, when you say something is impossible, that is where the belief of God's hand at work, or miracles come in. Many people believe that with God, all things are possible.
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Let me explain-religeous beliefs are just that, they are BELIEFS. They are based on FAITH. Faith is having a belief that is not necessarily based on any scientific proof...

Jesus was solid flesh and blood, not some abstract raft of spiritual ideas ;)
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Ok, if he was real. I'll accept that for the time being. What if he really never communicated with god? What if he just was a very smart and educated person who just wanted to do good? What if he was exaggerated by his disciples?
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You and I may belief that, but many people do not. We believe it because we have FAITH in him. Some poeple do believe he existed in a way that TheWalrus states. How can you prove to anyone that Jesus was real? You cannot. I cannot. I will insist that I believe in hi, that he was/is real. But, if someone were to ask me to prove it, I would say "I cannot. There is no concrete proof." That is faith.
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You and I may belief that, but many people do not. We believe it because we have FAITH in him. Some poeple do believe he existed in a way that TheWalrus states. How can you prove to anyone that Jesus was real? You cannot. I cannot. I will insist that I believe in hi, that he was/is real. But, if someone were to ask me to prove it, I would say "I cannot. There is no concrete proof." That is faith.
finally somebody who actually understands that Christ, yet cannot be proven.
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