The objective is not to "win" the debate, but to "win" the situation.
My idea is, if you really like the girl, you can go as far as "deny what you really believe in" if that will make it, but seems like you're already doing fine speaking your mind and perhaps that's what really made you "sexy" in her eyes (It's a presumption and I'm serious).
Forgive me guys, this may be another debate on one's principle and integrity but I personally believe that "agnostics" are (and should be) free as the wind. Since we don't adhere to anything yet, we can assume anything that pleases us to be "fine" at least even just for the time-being. If the action justifies one thing that is "tangible", the "means" would not be an issue, especially if it is simply "sacrificing" a belief for the "time-being". After all, when conditions are favorable, we can "turn the tables" once again..couldn't we?
So back to Ven's problem...
(.. will post again later. I intentionally cut my discussion into chunks not only to avoid "irritatingly long" posts but avoid loss of text due to power outage...happens once in a while here.)
