Just because he can send me to Hell doesn't mean he has the RIGHT to. Don't get it twisted. I can kill someone, but that doesn't mean I have the RIGHT to. Low self-esteem much? "I deserve to go to Hell. I deserve punishment." No you don't! Let me repeat this one more time: God created us, right? This means he created everything that he is against. The way we are is GOD'S FAULT, not ours. I don't deserve punishment because God has impossible standards. Yes, impossible standards. Since NO ONE ON THE PLANET can't not sin, God has impossible standards. He says we should be in Hell because we are alive. That is the most disturbing **** on the planet. I don't care if he did create me. I don't deserve to be hated for being created. You are like the abused child of an abusive mother. You actually believe your mother is right about you. You actually believe that you deserve to be hated. That you deserve to be beaten. That's wrong. I cannot worship him. If God sends me to Hell, **** him. Seriously. Even if Heaven is better, I wouldn't want to be near such a narcissistic psychopath.
Faith, this isn't an insult, but you have a hard time looking at things from another point of view. It appears to be impossible. You are so deeply entrenched in your beliefs that you refuse to even think about them or question them. As you've indicated, you know many people never or do not know of God. So, how can you assume that if you didn't know of Christianity you'd know of God? The only way people know of Christianity and God is because of missionaries. This means that people don't "naturally" believe in God. Faith, you've lived in America, right? That means you heard of Christianity and God. Everyone living in America has. It would be understandable if you lived somewhere in a jungle or something and you always believed in God. But since you didn't, your belief in God was not "naturally" inside you. I'm not saying that God isn't real because I don't know. All I'm saying is that you believing in God wasn't something that just popped in your head one day. While your father did not hurt you (Thank God. I'm glad you are okay and well), ask yourself why God would put you in that situation anyway. That's cruel. I just realized that I've used the abusive family situation analogy often. I'll stop using that.
"but of course, God hates me enough to choose me and accept me to be his servant" You just admitted that God hates you. If God says that you deserve to be tortured for being alive, God hates you. If God says that a good person deserves to be punished forever for not believing himself even though he has not made himself know to humans, God hates you. The way you describe God does not make me think about love or compassion. Your God truly scares me. Faith, you are not a wretch. Don't ever believe that.
God is not all-loving. That is a lie, Faith. I refuse to believe a loving being could even imagine torturing someone, let alone torturing some forever. In all honesty, God does allow everyone to do what they want. That's why people are murdered, beaten, and raped. He does not stop anything. God only punishes people after they are dead, when they can't do anything. So, your "should God let everyone do whatever they want" comment doesn't make sense. Faith, think for a second: All-loving. That is person is so full of love that it is impossible for us humans to even fathom that type of love. Humans are the sick ones who believe in torturing someone. If God is all-loving, he is beyond punishment. He is beyond hatred. That isn't foolish. To humans, it is, but that's because it's beyond what we can even imagine. That's what "all-loving" is. An "all-loving" God would not believe in revenge. The God could not even fathom revenge or anger. Quit calling him "loving." He is as loving as a sociopath.
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Originally Posted by Faith  And how can you say he doesn't have the right? If i spoke like you did, I wouldn't be syrprised to wake up in hell. Thirsty, hungry and in pain for eternity. I would deserve that and I would expect no less from God. In fact, I myself do not deserve to go to heaven, and no one could say otherwise. I disobeyed I don't know how many of God's command's, and yet he chose me to speak as a servant for him? I can honestly say I would not be more honured.
I made an idol in my head of a god who just because he was good and loving would not send anyone to hell. That just because he was good, no matter how people lived, into heaven they would go. I know better now, and you say something bout me becoming Christian cause of where I lived???
I always naturaly believed in God, I think God kept me safe because he had a purpouse for me. For the last 4 years till now I have lived with my father who always got drunk, smashed things left and right and who constantly did drugs. You can call it an escape all you want, but during thw whole 4 years of experiencing this and growing up around these things, I always hated drugs, always hated alcohol, and never turned from God. I grew up around this, in a secular school, never going to church never being taught about God. And here I am talking to you now.
No, the holy spirit as I said, is not bound to "where you live". I follow god because he chose me. Why? Don't ask me, all I can tell you is I DON'T DESERVE IT. but of course, God hates me enough to choose me and accept me to be his servant so that I may correct myself and be forgiven, and enter his kingdom of eternal happiness... Right.
Don't even say one more thing about God hating nayone, because that has got to be the most blasphemous thing I have ever heard. Whenever I hear the word's "You saved a wretch like me" it reminds me of myself.
God is all loving, and just because hs punishes which we rightfully deserve, does not mean otherwise. Listen to yourself talk, and tell me that God should just say, "Oh no thats ok. I'm all loving so that means I have to let people so what they want" That's not what all loving is. I'd say that would be more all foolish. Which God will never be. |