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Originally Posted by redcliff  Amen to that.
BTW, so if today I come up with a new religion and in its holy book I put all the scientific advancements of today (including the FACT of evolution, and embryology and quarks etc.) then according to mohamed I will have the best scientific religion in the world and you all should convert to my religion.
What if there was an Islam B that agreed with all the "scientific parts" of the quran but, disagreed with the non-provable parts (like Gabriel talked to someone else, or that Aristotle was also a prophet) how would you tell the differ? which one should you chose? his argument is cleanly based on false choice.
clearly, even if this supposed complete accordance with science is true (which is not) it does not prove the other parts - maybe some mischievous extraterrestrial (as mohamed pointed out Islam has no problem with them...) gave them some truths in order to confuse them and set them astray? after all, the best way to fool someone is to lace your words with some truths so they will buy the bigger lie. |
Firstly if you made a book today and included all the scientific facts of today theres nothing unique about that. But if you made a book today and wrote scientific advances that will be discovered 1400 years from today (not as a thoery but as a fact) then yes i would believe that your book is has some worth to look into but that would need to be proved. I don't understand what you mean by extraterristrial beings giving people some truth?? have you seen any extraterristrial beings come down and give anyone anything? Its pretty bizzare why anyone would believe in extraterrstrial beings and not belive that he was created
Anyway, Firstly the words of the quran were'nt twisted so you could believe in it. The website i gave you presents the words of the quran AS THEY WERE WRITTEN with out altering them or twisting them (which you seem to see other faiths do). For instance when god says by the darkness of the ocean do you think that 1400 years ago a person would just say that when they can see no darkness in the sea?
I don't understand how you can be more confident believing you came from an Ape-like creature then to believe you were created. For instance if i were to tell you that the computer your on just magically, on its own evolved over the years you would call me an idiot. if i told you i saw a rock slowly become an elephant you would call me an idiot. But you will believe that man came from an ape (which mind you they don't have a concrete proof that man came from and ape-like creature. to this day their trying to find various disconnections with in the evolutionary stages) even if they did prove humans came from ape-like creature (which they never will) then who made all this? who aligned the earth with all the planets? why is life so prime on this planet? who created the forces which separate the planets? regardless of how advanced science gets it will never be able to solve the puzzle of creation. in fact many years ago scientists would side with evolution but today as science advances more people are seeing the complexity and inticracy of life and the world and returning to belief in god
anyway my point was to show that the quran, unlike other beliefs, encourages science and states many concepts that we find today (a good example: 1400 years ago who new worker bees were female? its in the quran) the prophet mohammad (may peace and blessing be upon him) was illiterate and had never left the arabian pennisula so how can it be that he brought such a book?? answer its only from god!!
No one can refute what i showed you but if you choose to disregard it its your loss. If your really after truth then try to ask it poitltely (appreciate your manners MartheGod) if your just trying to argue for no purpose then don't post anything!