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Old 05-15-2008, 12:53 PM   #27 (permalink)
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From what I know of the quaran, which is very little,.. I don't believe that we are supposed to murder innocent people to please GOD. I don't believe that there is 72 virgins waiting for me in Heaven if I go and blow myself up. That's suicide,.. the only unforgivable sin. The way I see it, Islam is a false religion and a religion of hate. The Holy Bible is the only way. The GOD of Jesus is the one and only. Islam is a religion of Satan. It states that in one passage of their Quran. I don't remember where exactly. It's a religion of lies and deceit. So, now tell me why you believe the way you do. If you can.
Aye. You use your rational mind to analyze the nature of the world and what god YOU would want to worship. Then you choose your stance accordingly.

The stance I take is identical. I just happen to have a much better understanding of things like the interconnected network of biomaterial between your ears and the way it produces a human being's behaviors.

To me, the notion of the existence of a god who judges individuals based on their behaviors as free moral agents is simply false. We are not free moral agents. Saying that I'm going to hell is like saying that a tornado is evil for killing a person. It's not. It's a complex confluence of events that's part of the whole... There's no intrinsic identity to it that can be blamed for anything.

So in an identical fashion to your analysis (and rejection) of this specific doctrine due to your interpretation, I make a certain stance. You are risking a lot by rejecting islam as their hell can be quite a horrific place. Yet you are brave enough to do it because of your reasoned analysis of what little you know about it.

So if you want to call the agnostic stance stupid or brave/stupid, then you'll have to call your stance against islam equally stupid/brave. And a muslim or hindu will label you an atheist/agnostic where their god is concerned.

What if god were as horrific as you described above? Certainly you don't believe that he is, but I don't know what is inhibiting this as a possibility in your mind.

This courage/stupidity that you describe is derived from a reasoned analysis. Instead of socially provided christian queues (i.e. what you use), I use empirically derived scientific queues to drive my stances on such things.
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