Originally Posted by Nick Treklis

I wouldn't say all agnostics are cowards, some might honestly not yet feel confident in any conclusions they may have heard or come up with. Agnostics who cling to the label because it means they never have to commit, they never question things too deeply, or think all knowledge is unprovable are probably a mix of cowardice and other traits I find undesirable.

Originally Posted by Og

Agnostic does not preclude being atheistic about yaweh because he/she/it is a logical impossibility. To me, agnostic is the scientific approach.

In science, you never take a positive stance. You are always hedging your bet. The process of science is like sculpting. You remove what is not the sculpture to leave the sculpture. In science, you carve the truth out of the space of all possibilities. You always refine your sculpture by removing a bit more, but you never directly address the truth itself.

It's the sherlock holmes adage "Once you eliminate the probable, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth."

I certainly agree that yaweh is a logical impossibility outside of the human psyche. This does not prevent me from being an agnostic.

Yaweh is just another chip of marble on the floor.

Atheism is a boring stance for me. It says nothing other than what I already know. Agnosticism, to me, is the much broader and powerful term. Atheists are very ego centric it seems to me (I don't mean egotistical).