05-13-2008, 07:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Abel Just because you cannot place God into a concept you are able to grasp, you dismiss Him. Or worse, you invent a god that is what you want him to be. | I thought I made it clear that I was defining god in terms of NOT categorizing or conceptualizing (and thus limiting). That's the point of the transcendent. Did you misunderstand what I was saying? Quote: |
How sad that you refuse to accept that which you cannot see or explain. But understandable: Ephesians 4:18 "Having the understanding darkened, being alienated from the life of God through the ignorance that is in them, because of the blindness of their heart".
| If you cannot see (and by this I mean any sensory experience or thought) or explain something, then what could possibly lead you to accept it? That's the million dollar question I guess. Why take a stance on it at all if you cannot see or explain something? How do you even have the first clue that your stance will be correct? I prefer informed stances instead of a stance for the sake of having a stance. Even more crucially, I prefer to let my stances be led by evidence and to not identify (i.e. "take") my stances with me. Quote: |
You may impress others with your words and your supposed education, but not me. True wisdom comes only from God: James 1:5 "If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him."
| Hrm.. There seems to be irony here since I was equating myself (and you) with God. I guess what you meant to say here was that I am not identical with God not "true wisdom only comes from God." Hopefully you can stop worrying about my words impressing you and get more towards their content and begin addressing the concepts directly. Your continued dissection of the individual delivering the argument instead of the argument itself is tiresome and goes nowhere. Quote: |
You have stated your credentials in a display similiar to that of a mating peacock. I am not even able to verify that you went to a "tech" school, much less obtained a PhD. If I told you I had a PhD in Biblical Studies, would you automatically accept everything I said concerning the Bible based on my stated education? Probably not. And this is based on what I told GX. You have a presupposition, just as I do regarding the Scriptures. I will never sway you, nor you me as long as we hold to our presuppositions.
| The back story was relevant to your characterization of me as a dogmatic follower of campbell. You clearly had a misconception of my back story and I was clarifying. You can accept it or not. It was not designed to indicate authority at all. I was not asking you to accept everything I said as fact. I was trying to lay out a picture that would educate you. You are more than welcome to follow any vein that I tried to describe in my above post and discover for yourself. Or not. Your comprehension of it doesn't change observable reality. Again, I was not trying to get you to take me as an authority. I was simply trying to dispell your notion of me as a dogmatic follower of some individual (campbell).
And finally, what are my presuppositions about scripture? It seems to me that I make no presuppositions about scripture. And please don't mistake a supposition (based on objective analysis) with a PRE-supposition which is based on subjectivity of the observer. | You are not God.
You are only fooling yourself if you think you are not running on ego.
There is nothing I can show a blind man. |
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