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Og · 05-12-2008, 08:32 AM

Abel, Furthermore, I understand how you would be confused and associate my stance with arrogance. From your experience, you don't know about the nature of the human mind or the fabric of the universe. This is a failure of education.

I am sorry that you don't seem to have such access to the work of modern science. I imagine, however, that the environment you place yourself in (which seems to foster fairly strict classical christian dogma) is fairly dismissive of such information/education.

That is unfortunate. I can only hope that I can adapt my message to help you understand what it is that I see in the world. I have played praise music on a guitar in front of worship services. I have led inductive bible studies on a variety of new testament books for groups from middle school to adult age levels. I played johnthebaptist/judas in a production of Godspell (the gospel of matthew). I have raised my hand up in the air to feel God's presence during worship. I have seen the christian approach. I have seen the misconceptions that they have and the feelings it produces. I have felt them first hand. It blinds them to so much and keeps them trapped in original sin instead of truly freeing them from it. They continue to play the game of dichotomies and categories.

But, all is good. They are God and I am God regardless. They are all expressions of the divine ground of being just as I and you are. It's just that some haven't opened their eyes yet and realized that they were standing in the garden of eden all along.

People have painted such an elaborate fantasy world of nightmares on the inside of their eye lids. But its the only world they know. Opening their eyes is a scary step.

But as Jesus says in the gospel of thomas (paraphrased): "The kingdom of heaven will not come by expectation. The kingdom of heaven is already laid out upon the earth. It is just that men do not see it."

Metta

05-12-2008, 08:32 AM	#17 (permalink)
Og Campbellite Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Northern, VA Posts: 2,471	Abel, Furthermore, I understand how you would be confused and associate my stance with arrogance. From your experience, you don't know about the nature of the human mind or the fabric of the universe. This is a failure of education. I am sorry that you don't seem to have such access to the work of modern science. I imagine, however, that the environment you place yourself in (which seems to foster fairly strict classical christian dogma) is fairly dismissive of such information/education. That is unfortunate. I can only hope that I can adapt my message to help you understand what it is that I see in the world. I have played praise music on a guitar in front of worship services. I have led inductive bible studies on a variety of new testament books for groups from middle school to adult age levels. I played johnthebaptist/judas in a production of Godspell (the gospel of matthew). I have raised my hand up in the air to feel God's presence during worship. I have seen the christian approach. I have seen the misconceptions that they have and the feelings it produces. I have felt them first hand. It blinds them to so much and keeps them trapped in original sin instead of truly freeing them from it. They continue to play the game of dichotomies and categories. But, all is good. They are God and I am God regardless. They are all expressions of the divine ground of being just as I and you are. It's just that some haven't opened their eyes yet and realized that they were standing in the garden of eden all along. People have painted such an elaborate fantasy world of nightmares on the inside of their eye lids. But its the only world they know. Opening their eyes is a scary step. But as Jesus says in the gospel of thomas (paraphrased): "The kingdom of heaven will not come by expectation. The kingdom of heaven is already laid out upon the earth. It is just that men do not see it." Metta __________________ Vi veri veniversum vivus vici. (By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe) The self is not a fixed entity but a dynamic process of relationships You & I, no distinction. - Tat Tvam Asi Become Who You Are