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Originally Posted by romansh  We can guide our own lack of free will ... a non sequitur |
Lack of freewill doesn't mean we don't have will power.
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Originally Posted by debdodd How can I not have free will? I know you say it is an illusion that I have free will but 
it seems that I have the free will to make choices everyday and I do ... had I turned left instead of right to get home I would have missed the car wreck that made me miss the call that I was waiting for .... and on and on .... is it the illusion that we have choice and that it is all just random results ... if so then why make choices because what is going to happen is going to happen ... I just don't get it ... |
Just think about your current state of existence and how it got there. There are literally infinite factors that account for it. Food availability, your parents having sexual intercourse, their parents having sexual intercourse, the evolution of the human species, the formation of the planets, the formation of the Sun, the formation of the Galaxy and the rest of the universe, the fact that a tornado didn't sweep through your neighborhood yesterday and take your life, the fact that a bug didn't fly into your room and cause you to become too distracted by it to concern yourself with this topic. The factors are literally endless, and every single decision you make will have endless effects as well. So romansh is wrong when he says how understanding this fact doesn't really make much of a difference in how we live life. As you can see this shows just how important every decision we make is. Just because we have no free will doesn't mean we don't have will power.
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Originally Posted by Nick Treklis Are you suggesting that our consciousness will outlast the death of our bodies? If so, how long do you believe our consciousness lasts? | Eternal, from this lifetime to the next and inbetween ad infinitum. It is however constantly evolving. |
If it's constantly evolving then how can it rightly be said to be my consciousness or your consciousness or be eternal? It can only be said consciousness until it evolves into something else, and since this evolution is constantly taking place this means said consciousness only exists for a particular moment just like all things finite. It is certainly not eternal.