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Old 05-10-2008, 02:54 AM   #35 (permalink)
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...I would like to say one thing about what Astreja said. Not believing in hell simply because of the fact that it may produce "submission" by a person is not remotely logical...
[list][*]A genuinely omnipotent god could not be harmed by any other being, and would have no need for 'obedience' of any sort.
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Chapter 13: IT IS FORBIDDEN TO COMMIT OPPRESSION


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Book 032, Number 6246:
Abu Dharr reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying

that Allah, the Exalted and Glorious, said: My servants, I have made

oppression unlawful for Me and unlawful for you, so do not commit oppression

against one another. My servants, all of you are liable to err except one

whom I guide on the right path, so seek right guidance from Me so that I

should direct you to the right path. O My servants, all of you are hungry

(needy) except one whom I feed, so beg food from Me, so that I may give

that to you. O My servants, all of you are naked (need clothes) except one

whom I provide garments, so beg clothes from Me, so that I should clothe

you. O My servants, you commit error night and day and I am there to

pardon your sins, so beg pardon from Me so that I should grant you pardon.

O My servants, you can neither do Me any harm nor can you do Me any

good. O My servants, even if the first amongst you and the last amongst you

and even the whole of human race of yours, and that of jinns even, become

(equal in) God-conscious like the heart of a single person amongst you,

nothing would add to My Power. O My servants, even if the first amongst you

and the last amongst you and the whole human race of yours and that of the

Jinns too in unison become the most wicked (all beating) like the heart of a

single person, it would cause no loss to My Power. O My servants, even if

the first amongst you and the last amongst you and the whole human race of

yours and that of jinns also all stand in one plain ground and you ask Me and

I confer upon every person what he asks for, it would not. in any way, cause

any loss to Me (even less) than that which is caused to the ocean by dipping

the needle in it. My servants, these for you I shall reward you for thern, so

he who deeds of yours which I am recording finds good should praise Allah

and he who does not find that should not blame anyone but his ownself. Sa'id

said that when Abu Idris Khaulini narrated this hadith he knelt upon his knees.
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