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Old 05-08-2008, 08:49 PM   #112 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Remster View Post
I'm failing to get the point across. The question I'm raising isn't whether sounds, arms, etc. continue to exist when they're not being perceived, i.e. whether they're objective. Rather, the question I'm raising is whether it's possible to have false beliefs about the subjective, i.e. things that exist only while you're experiencing them?
Still not sure exactly what you mean. Is pain or the absence a figment of my imagination? Or maybe ... The beer in the fridge only exists when I open the door and see it?
My obtuse answer regarding ... pain now ... needed a definition now. Was not feeling pain until I started to look for it. Happens when you start getting older.
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Either way, the main issue here is whether you know that x=x, and the alternative you've given to its being an assumption (which is where I want to end up) is that it's a definition. A definition of what? And is a definition the sort of thing that can be true or false? If so, how do you know whether it's true or false that x=x?
Rem ... I'm never going to use the word "know" whilst you are around ...

I have not found (for me) an exception to this observation. I fully aware your x may not be the same as mine. x=x is a tool I (we) use everyday. Like I said before I am happy with it being a bloody good assumption.
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