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Originally Posted by StuckInThe90s  You claim that if the "Bible says it", that's the end of the discussion. The Bible is all truths, the Bible is perfect. Same can be said for the Koran, Torah, etc. Whenever a contradiction arises, the response is usually the same....
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Sounds like fun! I think I will add some if you dont mind "Stuck"...
Bible Contradictions
Not only are there errors in the Bible, there are also severe contradictions. These contradictions exist because the Bible was written by fallible men. The following verses are the most problematic contradictions that I know of.
Bible contradiction #1: How are we saved?
We are saved by faith alone: "For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith -- and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God - not by works, so that no one can boast." (Eph. 2:8-9)
"And if by grace, then it is no longer by works ..." (Rom. 11:6)
We are not saved by faith alone: "You see that a person is justified by what he does and not by faith alone." (James 2:24)
Both concepts cannot be true. Paul created a theology of salvation by faith alone. The Jerusalem apostles, who came into conflict with Paul on occasions, knew Jesus and his teachings much better than Paul. They continued Jesus' teachings of salvation through good works with faith playing a secondary role. The question to be answered is, "Who do you trust more? Jesus or Paul?" Nevertheless, NDE accounts generally show that we are already saved!
Bible contradiction #2: Is God a sinner?
God is jealous: "For the Lord, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God." (Exod. 34:14)
Jealousy is a sin: "The acts of the sinful nature are obvious ... jealousy" (Gal. 5:19-20)
If jealousy is a sin, and God is jealous, then the only conclusion we can draw is that God is a sinner. The two scripture verses above flat out contradict each other. This absurd conclusion makes God out to be less than perfect. The same can also be said of the notion of a "God of wrath" because Jesus taught that wrath is a sin.
Bible contradiction #3: Has anyone ever seen God?
Nobody has seen God: "No one has ever seen God ..." (John 1:18)
Abram saw God: "When Abram was ninety-nine years old, the Lord appeared to him and said, "I am God Almighty; walk before me and be blameless." (Gen. 17:1)
Jacob saw God: "It is because I saw God face to face, and yet my life was spared." (Gen. 32:30)
The leaders of Israel saw God: "But God did not raise his hand against these leaders of the Israelites; they saw God, and they ate and drank." (Exod. 24:11)
There are several Bible verses which state that nobody has ever seen God. But there are also several Bible verses which describes a large number of people who saw God.
Bible contradiction #4: Does God love or hate sinners?
God loves sinners: "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son ..." (John 3:16)
God hates sinners: "You are not a God who takes pleasure in evil; with you the wicked cannot dwell. The arrogant cannot stand in your presence; you hate all who do wrong." (Psalm 5:4-5)
The Bible is filled with references to how God hates the wicked. The problem with this is that the Bible also says that "no one is righteous" and everyone is a sinner. The idea that God hates this world of sinners is a contradiction to John 3:16. And even if God loves some people and hates others, this would make God out to be a respecter of persons and his love conditional.
In some parts of the Bible, an incorrect portrayal of a love/hate relationship between God and humanity is described. For example, in the beginning, God was pleased to create man. Then, man fell from favor with God. God expresses a regret in creating man to begin with but God allows them to be fruitful and multiply. Then one day, God decided to destroy everyone on earth except for relatively a few people. God's hatred for sin and sinners leads God to actually destroy practically everyone and everything on earth. God then becomes a tribal deity to a small group of Hebrews with God chooses only to save. But God commits horrible atrocities upon them and their neighbors because of their human failings. Later, Jesus came along teaching how much God loves everyone unconditionally. God has Jesus killed as a human sacrifice and a ransom to pay to someone holding humanity hostage. The Christian Church teaches that God is no respecter of persons despite the strong partiality he has shown to Jews and those who accept the Jewish Messiah. At the end of the Bible, God is shown having a vast multitude of humanity cast headlong into the fire of hell to burn in eternal damnation. These descriptions of God, when taken literally, is certainly schizophrenic to say the least. It demonstrates how an infallible Bible can lead to absurdities.