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Old 05-06-2008, 07:09 PM   #28 (permalink)
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Well, I don't know what the "Bzzzt" thing is all about. Unless you're just trying to be a wise guy. But that aside.
Imagine you're on a game show, and give a wrong answer. "Bzzzt!" is the buzzer that would go off to tell you your answer is wrong. It's an attempt to be funny. A lame one, yes, but that's what it is.
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The [u]Fair Tax[u] is truly the most "fair" to ALL in this country.
"Fair" is not an objective descriptor. It is, rather, a subjective value judgement. It therefore has no meaning.
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Just read the books man. Instead of just dismissing it as so called propaganda.
Duh ... I have "read the books," I know they contain nothing but propaganda, and I have explained how and why it's propaganda.
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Everyone would pay a 23% sales tax that is already embedded into the prices of all goods and services. The more you spend and buy, hence, the more you would pay. So, if you don't buy alot, you won't pay alot.
The label of "fair" can be slapped on anything one wants to slap it on, but it's particularly difficult to apply it to a sales tax, because all sales taxes are, by definition, regressive (i.e. they are a greater burden to the lower end of the economic ladder). Yes, I know Boortz & Co. have a way around that, which they call a "pre-bate" but everyone who knows English calls a "rebate," but their rebate does not take into account variations in the cost of living, in addition to having several other deficiencies.
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And it stops all the illegal aliens from getting away with not paying taxes.
The reason why we have illegal immigrants in the US is not because of our tax system. It's because our borders are porous and employment laws are not well-enforced. Changing the tax system to discourage it, is not going to help, because taxation is not the cause.
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And yes, I do believe they can afford to pay. If they can afford to send money home to Mexico, then they can afford to pay taxes just like the rest of us. No more free ride off of the American tax payer.
I agree that illegal immigrants should not milk the country as they do. But the tax system is not the solution to a porous border. Plugging the borders is the solution to a porous border.
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All I can say man is, read the books.
What part of "I have read the books, I have found them full of propaganda, lies and distortions, and therefore have concluded their authors are not trustworthy" do you not understand?
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Whether you THINK it's propaganda or not.
I don't "think" it's propaganda, I know it is, and I have explained rather specifically how this is the case. You telling me it's not propaganda, is useless.
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Till then, I don't think you know what the heck you're talking about. Propaganda my eye!!!
Once again, I must ask ... What part of "I have read the books, I have found them full of propaganda, lies and distortions, and therefore have concluded their authors are not trustworthy" do you not understand?
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