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Old 05-05-2008, 06:42 PM   #20 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Nick Treklis View Post
So how did you achieve absolute certainty that these axioms can never be proved absolutely true? Either we accept this axiom at face value and come to terms with fact that it is absolutely true, or we recognize that it is a walking contradiction and therefore meaningless which means it is absolutely false, in turn showing us the real Absolute Truth of the matter. Any way you slice it this logically proves the existence of Absolute Truth that can be understood by us through the use of logic.
A=A simply says something is what it is.
can we know what something is though?
an axiom is like a starting point.
if an axiom is with in our perception. it simply means we're experiencing something that can not be subdivided and explained, it simply is. if its something like "there is(n't) a god" then its a starting point. however we are limited in our abilitys, we have a reference point. it acts like a filter. X saying that X is correct is as much proof as saying "i'm right becuse i say so" all axioms have to prove themselfs is nothing. they are what simply are for a sake of a argument or they are what we are too igorant to explain or they are a fundamental and i have to help my brother move in...
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remember "for mere impulse of appetite is slavery, while obedience to a law which we prescirbe to oursleves is liberty"-rousseau: the concept of the general will "if we can not reconcile all opions, then let us endeavour to unite all hearts."-?"to be is to be perceived"-? "‘We can be as honest as we are ignorant. If we are, when asked what is beyond the horizon of the known, we must say that we do not know’-Robert G. Ingersoll
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