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Old 05-04-2008, 11:37 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Lightbulb It's not about the sales tax, it's about the propagandizing and lies

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Psicop,
Apparently, you have not even tried to do any research about the fair tax, or you'd know the difference between that and a national sales tax.
Sorry to break this to you, but I have done so. I have found it to be lacking ... mostly because of the people who support it. They engage in propaganda tricks (such as calling it a "fair" tax when in reality it is a "national sales tax"; ANY kind of a tax can be called "fair," calling it "fair" is quite obviously NOT a description of what it is). They weave fantasies (such as that a different tax system will magically create jobs and eliminate tax-collection bureaucracy). They generally do a lot of wishful thinking based on what they would like to see, rather than what really exists.

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Been there, done that, not impressed with propaganda tricks such as calling their tax "fair," the invention of new words like "pre-bate," or laughable claims such as the sales tax will collect itself and require no one to police it.

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At least check it out before you try and shoot it down.
Is there some reason ... other than the fact that I dislike the techniques used to promote it ... that makes you think I have no idea what Boortz's national sales tax is? It is illogical and irrational for you to conclude that ONLY ignorance of it can lead to dismissal of it. You'd be in company with (for example) Christians who think that non-believers are merely ignorant of Christianity and if they knew about it, they'd embrace it. Both of these are fallacious positions.

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You might be surprised by the amount of support it has picked up.
Bzzzt! Argumentum ad populum! This is a fallacy. Ideas do not gain veracity or validity based on how many people have accepted them.

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Or go pick up the books I mentioned at the library. That's not too hard, is it?
All of the literature on the subject of this national sales tax, is written by propagandists whose motives I distrust and whose claims I consider suspect and non-credible (due to their obvious use of propaganda tricks). When someone spews propaganda at me, I do not believe them. I just don't.

Moreover, they claim that a national sales tax will collect itself, obviating the need for an IRS. This is patently absurd. Every state, county and city in the country which has a sales tax, has a bureaucracy to collect it. Every single one. They are LYING when they tell you none is necessary. There is no magic that will transfer sales taxes from cashiers' drawers to the national treasury ... there IS work involved, and there WILL BE people to police the process. It cannot be otherwise.

Their "abolish the IRS" lie alone, condemns them utterly. Given that, their use of propaganda tricks becomes secondary to everything else they say, because they cannot be believed.

You would do well to examine their motives yourself. IF you are willing to do so. Since you railed at me for not knowing enough about the national sales tax, I wonder ... perhaps it's time for ME to demand that YOU instead examine its proponents' motives and try to account for their use of propaganda techniques? I assume, of course, that you are NOT willing to do that, in which case you condemn yourself as a hypocrite ... but that would be beside the point.
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