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Old 05-04-2008, 10:59 AM   #3 (permalink)
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What we do know about Marcion himself is that he had a very poor opinion of anyone who did not share his beliefs;
That seams to be a common ground for most of religions, from Atheists to Believers...

I'm working or organizing ideas about it, yet Catharism and Marcionism seams very related.

For an instance, this part of John's Gospel:

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Jesus saith unto them: If ye were Abraham's children, ye would do the works of Abraham. But now ye seek to kill me, a man that hath told you the truth, which I have heard of God: this did not Abraham. Ye do the deeds of your father. Then said they to him, We be not born of fornication; we have one Father, even God. Jesus said unto them: If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself but he sent me. Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word. Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not. John 8 39-44
was used by Cathars to justify Yahweh wasn't the same God of Jesus, yet it can be "twisted for both sides".

Turns out difficult on a religion so reviewed to know exactly the meanings, nevertheless, the God described by Christ was a God of Love (and I like that), while the God of the Old Testament wasn't...
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