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Old 05-01-2008, 08:52 PM   #213 (permalink)
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You have piqued my curiosity. I have two simple questions for you.

1) How can you say with absolute assurance that my God does not exist?
Monism is the way the world works. Your god is predicated on the existence of an intrinsic identity to each of us. Science clearly illustrates how each one of us (and all things, for that matter) are complex confluences of events just as a tornado or hurricane is a complex confluence of events.

With a clear illustration of a lack of intrinsic identity to all things (monism), it is clear that a separate god (i.e. the christian god who is a separate being from you) makes no sense. If there is a god, it is identical with your most basic nature and you are it.

You cannot escape causality (I'm not talking about determinism as quantum illustrates that as false). You are the sum of your experience. The enlightened person looks into any other individual and sees within them the entirety of the universe. We are expressions of the universe and do not have intrinsic identity. We are entirely defined by extrinsic factors.

This is a demonstrable fact.

Given this, the idea of an entity with intrinsic identity who punishes or rewards other individuals with their own intrinsic identities is clearly rubbish.

There's no fundamental difference between the connection between my hands typing this message and your eyes reading it than there is between any pair of neurons connected in your brain. The notion of a boundary between individuals is an illusion.

Christian God does not exist unless you reduce the definition of it to BE all things and toss out all that heaven/hell junk as some reference to something real.
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