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Old 05-01-2008, 08:39 AM   #197 (permalink)
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This is a funny thread. I am amused.
you find it funny .... I find it weird .... for neither side "knows" anything for sure ... they can argue in circles but there is no "proof" that I see.

I just know that Abel's God does not exists ... all the rest is conjecture .... some of it sounds better and perhaps more possible but until we die, I don't think any of us will know ... but I am willing to bet my soul that Abel is wrong ...
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You have piqued my curiosity. I have two simple questions for you.

1) How can you say with absolute assurance that my God does not exist?

2) What do you believe in?
okay answers .....

1. I was religious for years and years, prayed copious amounts, worked in nursing, never saw any miracles only pain .... if your god does exist he is a hateful, vengeful god that doesn't care about the people praying to him ... only wants the adoring fans at his feet ..... if there is some higher being he isn't the god of your bible .....

2. I believe that we are on our own. we have choices to make. we have been given guidelines by wise-men in the past .. we can choose to follow paths that wise men/women have given us and find some kind of contentment, peace with our life but as for life and being here ... we are only here to pass on DNA and to guide the DNA of those we produce (or in my case adopt) to be good citizens of the world, caretakers of one another ... no fluffy clouds in the skies called heaven, no virgins waiting for us, no burning fires .... what comes after our death is the legacy we leave behind with those that we left behind ...

we should be good human being because of fear of a god's wrath we should be "good" because it is the right thing to do .... there was a time of ignorance when people needed that fear based book ..... and some still do need it ... but I do know what is right and wrong, I know how to live life and do not need a book like the bible to tell me ... someone else said it to live like christ ... to be a good and loving person ... I fail on occasion but I get up every time I fail and try again ....

I know you think I am lost but once I made the decision that there was no god ... clarity came .... doesn't work for you I accept that but it saddens me when christians spout off that non christians are doomed to hell (i.e. muslims, buddhists, etc) .... that just spreads more hate and bigotry in the world. I judge the man/woman by their deeds not religion they embrace. Deb
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