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Old 04-19-2008, 01:10 PM   #291 (permalink)
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Besides saying "malevolent" makes the rest irrelevant now.
How? Don't just SAY it's "irrelevant," EXPLAIN how it's irrelevant.

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I liked the paper the way it is.
I'm sure you did, but unfortunately, that isn't how I'd intended the page to be read. The fault for that is mine, of course, but I've corrected the error.

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If you put your God is malevolent I just assume you’re a JCI hater and disregard the paper as a word game.
Woops! Illogic warning! I'm not an Abrahamic-God "hater." I can't be, I consider him a fictional construct. I can no more "hate" the Abrahamic God than I can "hate" Santa Claus, the Tooth Fairy, or Bilbo Baggins.

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I think if close it in another way than stating God is a spiteful, malice, evil, wicked, nasty, mean being and you’ll have a good paper.
Actually the essay now reads exactly the way I'd intended it to read. It concludes that if the universe had been created by any omnipotent being, said being CANNOT logically be anything OTHER than malevolent. If that isn't clear to you, now, after I fixed it up, then you're in denial (as they say in the pop-psych world) and beyond help.

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For me to debate you would mean that I think you and I have a clue to what God is or is not.

We do not.
As an Agnostic I have rationally concluded that NO ONE ... neither I, nor you, nor any of the Bible authors, Church Fathers, Hebrew prophets, clergy, preachers ... NO ONE ... can "know" anything about God. All any of us can do, is to suppose, guess, hope, wish, etc.

What I can do, however, is address common beliefs about the JCI God and show that he cannot logically be what JCI believers claim him to be. I have done that. It's up to YOU either to acknowledge the logical absurdity of your own beliefs, or refute the logic I've offered.

In other words ... instead of bellyaching that I dare to question the benevolence of your deity, get to work and refute that conclusion. Or admit that you either cannot or will not do so.

The ball of argumentation is now in YOUR court. Do NOT continue to complain that I cannot offer my own initial argument ... I have already done so, without regard to your objection. So address it, or not. The choice to do so is YOURS and YOURS ALONE.
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