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Old 04-15-2008, 08:26 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by B-continum View Post
From what I understand from this then is that objects we perceive (see, feel, taste) are organized by our mind and are given an identity by our mind. Matter then (from my interpretation of things) is mind-dependent.
I would say "yes" to your statement that objects we perceive are given an identity by our mind. But I don't think matter is mind-dependent.

The identity that your mind assigns to an object is itself an object, which exists as data in your mind. The data object in your mind (the idea) and the real object outside of your mind (the non-idea) are two different real things, independent of each other.

The matter existing outside of your mind, like a teacup for example, reflects light, takes up space, and does other things which people can detect, but the teacup exists outside of your mind; it is a "non-idea". When you detect it, a data-copy of the teacup is created by your mind, and other people's mind will do the same. Now, your data-copy (your idea) of the teacup is definitely different than anyone else's data-copy/idea, and is not the same as the actual teacup itself. But everything, including the teacup, your idea, my idea, and anyone's idea or interpretation of the teacup are all separate, existing, independent, real objects in the universe.
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