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**debdodd** · 04-08-2008, 09:38 AM

I think there are plenty of ways to find healing grace without it being through Jesus, Buddha or any other religious deity. People can find personal redemption and salvation in themselves.

The catalyst for some is through religion for others it can be via self awareness, self actualization and taking responsibility and control of their life. For some the easiest way is via organized religion but that is not the only way.

I find that a good person who is atheist, Muslim or christian is simply that. One can do good things, be a good person and not have a God to be the motivator ..... awareness of ones' surroundings, our impact on those around us and our self is; in my opinion, as important as being prodded to do these things because it is one or an other's "God's Will" or whatever parameters the religion puts on it's believers.

I haven't found that religious people are necessarily more moral than nonbelievers ....

also level of education doesn't indicate level of corruption educationt just helps getting away with the corruption easier.

I have tried plenty of religions on for size and have never found one that "fit".

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debdodd Beelzebub-ette Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Indianapolis, Indiana Posts: 1,448	preacherman I think there are plenty of ways to find healing grace without it being through Jesus, Buddha or any other religious deity. People can find personal redemption and salvation in themselves. The catalyst for some is through religion for others it can be via self awareness, self actualization and taking responsibility and control of their life. For some the easiest way is via organized religion but that is not the only way. I find that a good person who is atheist, Muslim or christian is simply that. One can do good things, be a good person and not have a God to be the motivator ..... awareness of ones' surroundings, our impact on those around us and our self is; in my opinion, as important as being prodded to do these things because it is one or an other's "God's Will" or whatever parameters the religion puts on it's believers. I haven't found that religious people are necessarily more moral than nonbelievers .... also level of education doesn't indicate level of corruption educationt just helps getting away with the corruption easier. I have tried plenty of religions on for size and have never found one that "fit". __________________ "Ubi dubium ibi libertas." "We are all lone souls. It pays to know humility, lest the delusion of control, of mastery, overwhelms. And indeed, we seem a species prone to that delusion, again and ever again ....."