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Originally Posted by Nick Treklis  ..... it simply is what it is, A=A.
Absolute Truth ....... it means that it is true at every possible time and in all possible worlds we can imagine. Quote:
Originally Posted by romansh Quote:
Originally Posted by Nick Treklis This like like saying "all socks are white but all of them are black too". It makes no sense what so ever. | Not to me. | This is disturbing... |
A = A only if we agree on a frame work eg c
ar and c
are the a(s) are not equivalent. So A does not equal A at every possible time and in all possible worlds.
"Not to me" ... I was referring to the analogy. But in a perfectly dark room what colour are the socks, with sodium vapour light what colour are the socks?
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....A belief has nothing to do with facts, it is entirely based in faith. A belief might be true by coincidence, but for the person holding the belief they are ultimately deluded about the truth of the matter. Only the person who has uncovered the truth through careful reasoning and logic would know if that person's belief was true or false.
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OK I too use faith and belief as synonyms. The latter in a more secular sense.
Now I believe the sun will 'come up' tomorrow. It is based on the available evidence pointing to this phenomenon occurring reliably. Our laws of motion and gravity provide us with a predictive tool. I see no substantive evidence otherwise. Other people may put more weight on the unsubstantive evidence and come to what is a strange conclusion based on faith. Eitherway belief and faith are dependent on facts. I think we can prove a belief is false, I'm not sure we can prove it true without gathering more evidence. (eg waiting 18 h in my case).