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Old 04-04-2008, 09:06 PM   #186 (permalink)
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"true", its a truth relative to you.
its your interpretation of a percieved pattern of everyday happenings and such,
Is this statement just an interpretation of a perceived pattern of every day happenings, and therefore not absolutely true?

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any one know if the image in the mirror is just a image or if its a reflection, if so how for sure?
This is an empirical matter, the logical truths I'm stating are in now way nullified by the fact that what we are seeing is a delusion. I've even stated the Absolute Truth that every thing is essentially a delusion in that it doesn't exist inherently so it doesn't really matter to me whether or not an image is this or that, it simply is what it is, A=A.

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there is no 100% certainty
Are you 100% certain about this statement?

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Perhaps the absolute truth would have been a better description. In that any truths, or untruths, absolute or otherwise, are dependent of the universe. And therefore are not complete ... how can one have an incomplete truth be absolute?

Even what it points to is incomplete.

I don't think these are absolute in that they have boundaries, we have to agree on definitions etc.
Whether or not a truth is limited or is bound in some way doesn't mean it isn't absolutely true. Absolute Truth doesn't mean it is infinite like The All is, it means that it is true at every possible time and in all possible worlds we can imagine. Like I've already said, the All is the only thing that is infinite in every aspect, even the truth relies on untruth for its existence.

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OK I believe Newton's laws are a fairly good approximation of matter behaves, in this part of the universe, at the planetary level. In what way am I deluded?
I agree that they seem to be reasonable assumptions about the way objects behave based on our current understanding of how things work. In relation to this statement you would only be deluded if you believed these assumptions to be absolutely true.

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This like like saying "all socks are white but all of them are black too". It makes no sense what so ever.
Not to me.
This is disturbing...

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I was wondering did you notice the juxtaposition of two of you quotes?
You took the statements out of context. Did you notice how I made myself more clear with this statement?: A belief has nothing to do with facts, it is entirely based in faith. A belief might be true by coincidence, but for the person holding the belief they are ultimately deluded about the truth of the matter. Only the person who has uncovered the truth through careful reasoning and logic would know if that person's belief was true or false.
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