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Old 04-02-2008, 10:45 AM   #27 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by jimdene View Post
Vinterland, don't just blindly accept what you have read in any religious document. They are more than 2000 years old and obviously prone to alteration throughout the ages.
Think for yourself. As Richard Dawkins says: It cannot be proved one way or the other if a god exists, but in all probability he, I won't say he or she Girls, because you don't get a look in, does not exist
I'm an atheist.

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I believe that religion, as it is taught today, encourages ignorance and that allows our leaders to pretty much do what they want. It also holds us back in the scientific and scholastic arena's(there are examples of this). It also affects health care, i.e. the prejudice of not distributing condoms in places where they are sorely needed to block the spread of diseases.

Yes in some cases the fear of god can be a large influence on peoples lives, but I think it would be better to teach respect for your fellow human beings(treat others as you would have them treat yourself), for that you do not need religion.
"All generalizations, with the possible exception of this one, are false"
-Kurt Godel

I could label you say using inductive reason, but since I don't believe you have established an general rule, I think it's likely you do not have sound evidence. How and which religions promote ignorance and in which areas of life?

I understand and have read myself about the instances of religion interfering with intellectual progress, but that does not make it the rule.

Now, I don't actually believe this right now, but consider what happens when you eliminate a carnivore that preys on ungulates in a region...the animals tend to die by overpopulating and then die en masse by starvation due to depletion of food sources on their own account(I can cite sources). I'm not saying this justifies the Catholic Church's (policy?) on giving Bible's and not condoms, but you have to consider AIDS and its effects on the children of the people that have sex.
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