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Eastspur · 03-05-2008, 08:39 AM

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Let me start out by saying WOOHOO!!! Finally somewhere where I can share my ideas without being looked at like I'm crazy. I embrace logic and reason which in my family and group of friends is "out-of-the-norm". I firmly believe that people who follow organized religion (which living where I live means baptists for the most part) do so out of fear. Fear of rejection, fear of death, or maybe both. Maybe some people never ask why, maybe some people don't know how. I quickly learned I'm wasting time trying to use reason with people who do not reason. I tend to agree with Jefferson that even god has to accept reason over fear. I love debating, I love being proven wrong. I do often find myself debating with Christians and I always respect others beliefs.

Some days I believe in a God, other days I don't. So basically I don't know.

Other thoughts I have... which are just thoughts.
Would an all powerful god really create us to follow a book? Seems so... silly.
Belief gets you into heaven while a good person who doesn't believe goes to hell. If this is true, then I have no wish to live eternity with a God that can let good men go to hell. I would rather burn with the good men. Yeah iv heard the arguments. Sorry I'm being blunt. As you can tell, I have a lot to vent.

Oh and I love quotes.

Travis
age: 23
Texas

Umm first post so be gentle

Hey Travis. The fact that we're fellow Texans gives us something in common, although the religion I escaped from was the Church of Christ which, if anything, is even more mindlessly fundamentalist than the Baptists, who are more politically inclined.

I predict that, if you keep looking, you'll discover a lot more incongruities and contradictions within the Christian faith or, in my personal experience, within any of the formalized major religions, although some, such as Buddhism or other Eastern forms, call for a lot less abandonment of reason and logic.

And that's the one standard I suggest you subscribe and adhere to as you consider which religion, if any among the established ones, you eventually adopt. Or, as in my personal case, which you refuse to adopt on the basis of logic and reason.

We are also in the same city

Thanks for all the welcomes. I'm still looking around. I guess I have been at the point of rejecting formal religion due to reason and logic for a while. I just can't see how God would accept fear and reject reason. I do feel like I was being lazy at some points. I doubt I will be searching for any religion in the near future (I hate to say ever). I will be spending more time searching for truth and less time being lazy. I may not find a answer to my questions but at least I can say I tried.