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Old 03-04-2008, 02:36 AM   #18 (permalink)
Bjarki Dalsgarð
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Originally Posted by nakamichi680zx View Post
Life has not been kind to you much has it, Bjarki? So are you as pessimistic about it as it appears?

Part of what I wonder about when we are agnostics/atheists is that when things go really badly for us, do we take full responsibility for our suffering and disappointments or do we blame others?

Part of the reason for my signature is that our own expectations can really make us miserable and set us up for untold hardship. When you have no one to blame, how is it that you get through it?

So when you write about such bitter experiences, how do you avoid blame and victimization and move on? How do you NOT look for supporting evidence of Hell on earth?

The Forum called it [in Forum-speak] "You're already always listening." which means in effect that you have on this filter which sifts out things that you don't want to see and essentially only lets through what you want to see/hear.

I would go further and postulate that this Bill Weise was ready to experience his version of Hell and granted his own mind's wish when he saw what he wished to see while unconscious and then sought out validation.
I'm not really pessimistic about life, I just don't really value it that much, even though I know I should.

Yeah I'm bitter, but I do not seek revenge or anything, everything has been forgiven though definatly not forgotten, I feel that for those mofos out there the greatest punishment for them is the knowledge that they have been really bad at some point in life, so far there have been a couple of the who have cracked and just wept when they have been told what I think about them, and told them that I don't blame them or anything. And they know that they didn't deserve the forgiveness.
The greatest punishment is unwanted forgivness, it is not revenge though, and that is how I have come through this hell, knowing that they did get something they didn't want.
And of course I met someone who melted my heart, which did help something so fiercly.

I don't blame anyone really, kids are kids and will always be the same, we should just pay more attention to what they are doing, if your children come home from school upset one day, and don't want to talk about what is wrong. Make sure to get to the bottom of it straight away, no matter how much your kid is going to hate you for pressing on.

Victimization? We are all victims, some just more than others.

How do you NOT look for supporting evidence of Hell on earth?
Should I? I have proof of it.

I can move on cause I have found someone to trust.

The bitternes mainly steems from the fact that I know, there are others out there who go through the same stuff, and worse. So do me a favour, go to your kids have a nice and long talk with them about how to behave and ask them if something is wrong, cause I hate to know that it is possible that your(not yours in specific, your as in the entire forum here) kids are either on the receiving end or the dealing end of such things.

I have no expectations about life whatsover, it does not give you anything for free, so if you want anything you have to struggle on yourself.

This Bill Weise seems rather cheerfull for having experienced his version of hell, I don't know anything about him as I haven't heard about him before here so I can't really judge him. But it sounds wrong to me, that he's in a condition to go out right away and write a book about it, but it could be who is wrong about him.

Kids these days, *deap breath* for them is mercy a sign of weakness, who wants to be weak?

Did all that make sense? was it contradictionary or am I just not woken up yet? did I miss something?

Cheers

Just do whatever is in your power to save your kids from my version of hell, and from sending others to it, I do find it more likely than those 23 minutes that dude spent there.


"Behind the bright lights hide a multitude of horrors as would disgust and repel the most stout-hearted of men. So it is with determination and unflinching duty that we must face those vile and terrible things - for if not us, then who?"

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