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Originally Posted by Herra1 Yes i did.
1 is one.
What it/that means, then ?
There is a whole plethora of things, wich they say are proven.
Like gravity, a phenomena, wich you can understand through manipulation of numbers.
1 is number.
So we should then understand 1.
Because things that we cant understand, are things that we cant control. | "They" do not say that anything is proven. In fact, science/engineering does not deal in absolute proof. They only deal in evidence and observation relative to control (an arbitrary point). It's why power outlets (no matter where you are on the planet) require at least two plug holes. One is a voltage (a statement, for example) and the other is a reference point (control/axiom). This is the way of all things in science and engineering.
The universe is demonstrably relative in all things. Measure the speed of light. Then step on a train and measure it again. You get the same velocity measure regardless of your speed relative between two reference frames.
Proof is a term reserved for mathematics where there are axioms and a internally consistent framework that is otherwise arbitrary. The number one is just a defined concept. Want to know what it means? Look inside someone's brain and see what neurons are firing when they think of the number one. Then you'll have their definition of one. Look in a math book and you'll have the "what is" for the number one that is generally agreed upon.
Absolute proof is not attainable nor is it sought after by scientists or engineers. | Exactly,
A meter is a meter because we ALL say (agree on) it is that distance.  |
Ah, and what is meter then ? A system to calculate the distance, maybe You say ?
And what is a kilo, then ? A system to calculate weight, You maybe say ?
Okay.
There are other ways also, to calculate/measure the distance or weight, kilometer or tonne. We have to keep that in mind.
Now, lets say, that the distance we want to travel from 500 meters is 1 meter.
1m times 500= 500 meters, With me ?
Now lets substitute the 500 meter with something really novel, like National Football League.
NFL has 32 teams and one of them is called NY Giants.
So NFL=500, NYG=1. (We can argue that NY Jets are not the same as NYG but that is beside the point, and the point is), how many members/players do NYG have ?
1 NFL is made out of teams, one which happens to be NYG.
1 nation is made out of so many citizens.
1m is made out of 100cm.
1kilo is made out of 100 kilograms.
And, yes we have been agreed upon what means NFL, nation, meter or kilo.