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Old 02-11-2008, 09:43 AM   #32 (permalink)
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Yes i did.
1 is one.
What it/that means, then ?
There is a whole plethora of things, wich they say are proven.
Like gravity, a phenomena, wich you can understand through manipulation of numbers.
1 is number.
So we should then understand 1.
Because things that we cant understand, are things that we cant control.
"They" do not say that anything is proven. In fact, science/engineering does not deal in absolute proof. They only deal in evidence and observation relative to control (an arbitrary point). It's why power outlets (no matter where you are on the planet) require at least two plug holes. One is a voltage (a statement, for example) and the other is a reference point (control/axiom). This is the way of all things in science and engineering.

The universe is demonstrably relative in all things. Measure the speed of light. Then step on a train and measure it again. You get the same velocity measure regardless of your speed relative between two reference frames.

Are You suggesting that Newtons laws of motion or Einsteins theories are not proven ?
Lets have an example, shall we ?
Radioactivity.
When, or how You know, how to deal with radioactive material ?
You calculate, they are not You regular ones or threes but with these number manipulations You can do something with radioactivity.

Proof is a term reserved for mathematics where there are axioms and a internally consistent framework that is otherwise arbitrary. The number one is just a defined concept. Want to know what it means? Look inside someone's brain and see what neurons are firing when they think of the number one. Then you'll have their definition of one. Look in a math book and you'll have the "what is" for the number one that is generally agreed upon.

IF YOU have strong feelings of hate, or maybe even loathe the word proof,
i can substitute it with, valid argument with true premises.
I genuinly thought that i was in philosophy pages.
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