Originally Posted by The An-Jel

Huh so what your saying is that these religious folk from Jesus to Mohammed are the result of attaining this superconscious state and couldn't handle it? They fell from this state with a series of concepts they themselves invented or "saw". There is no way they ever could have "seen" these types of things. A Superconscious State does what then exactly? What can I get out of the Superconcious state that I can't do on my own without entering this kind of state? I get a nice coast, feel the inner peace I get from looking out across the ocean, find a decent woman that treats me well as I treat her, read and write my books and consider the aspects of physical reality that interest me... I don't see what this Superconscious state does.

While all of us have the same basic physical characteristics but not the same "gifts" I still can't see how anyone can call another person delusional if in this state they saw something different from another. While I agree the results of their "visions" have resulted in incalcuable death and destruction not just physically but mentally as well... it seems one man in your examples can be better than another. I am hoping I am understanding your posts correctly.