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Originally Posted by Telimaktar  Most christians do not do research into the Hebraic words behind the english translated bible. Therefore going into such detail will not prove valid in this context even though it might prove you in correct in a sense. |
Sure it will - I don't consider myself to be an expert in solar power, but if I were to want to research solar power, I would go to the experts who study and engineer it. I would not just pick up a solar panel, put it in my backyard, and then be able to tell you the whole history of solar panels from that. It's the same with Biblical study. Saying that "most people don't know" therefore makes an argument false is a huge "ad popularum" fallacy.
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Originally Posted by Telimaktar Dictionary:
Calamity: An event resulting in great loss and misfortune (natural disasters)
Evil: 1.Morally objectionable behaviour (doing wrong)
2.That which causes harm or destruction or misfortune (natural disasters)
3.The quality of being morally wrong in*principle or practice |
The definitions I get are:
calamity:
1. a great misfortune or disaster, as a flood or serious injury.
2. grievous affliction; adversity; misery
evil
1. that which is evil; evil quality, intention, or conduct: to choose the lesser of two evils.
2. the force in nature that governs and gives rise to wickedness and sin.
3. the wicked or immoral part of someone or something: The evil in his nature has destroyed the good.
4. harm; mischief; misfortune: to wish one evil.
5. anything causing injury or harm: Tobacco is considered by some to be an evil.
6. a harmful aspect, effect, or consequence: the evils of alcohol.
Sounds to me like "evil" is quite a broad term.
Not to mention, you're just using the NASB. Most other versions (KJV, NIV and NLT included) say "darkness". Your argument is pretty weak when you're just using one interpretation and making a blanket claim that most translations use "evil" here.
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Originally Posted by Telimaktar While there is a similarity the word Calamity sounds far more "natural"(good, far lesser evil) than saying Evil (satan, hitler)
These two words paint very different images in the mind. |
Sure - but again, your interpretation does not necessarily define what the author meant. Any English professor will tell you that.
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Originally Posted by Telimaktar My point goes beyond the scope of the "Evil God" thing and that one line, I am pointing out the fact that many words have been translated so differenty that it makes the validity of the bible very hard to prove, too many powerful figures throughout history have been able to tamper with it. |
"Many words"? To be serious, you can't just make blanket claims about things without showing tangible evidence for those claims.
I'll agree with you that people have misinterpreted the Bible - sure, it's a book. People often read things wrongly. But it's an impossible stretch to say that something has
been changed because people misinterpret it. You have a lot more things to show before you can make that claim.