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Originally Posted by romansh  Quote:
Originally Posted by Vinterland The agnostic can choose to believe or disbelieve | Yes they can, but I suspect they "choose" not to. Quote:
Originally Posted by Vinterland you actively disbelieve. | I'll take your word for it? Actually no I won't.... I don't disbelieve in god
Yes I am atheist, when it comes to theistic gods.
Not the deadbeat father kind though.
I think we are not going to come to concensus on this one V.
If it's OK with you; we take a half time break on this one?
All the best |
Okie dokie , I had actually forgot completely about this topic due to a lack of interest, but then I saw your post in another topic and I recalled. So, if you don't mind I'd like to throw out a few more ideas before we both call it in.
I'm using the common dictionary to define simple words like 'doubt' and 'disbelieve'. I mean them to be mostly synonymous with each other, that disbelieve means doubt in a belief and that doubt is synonymous with skepticism and to a great extent, imo, agnosticism. I agree more or less with Og's definition in the ghost topic, he said an agnostic should not believe in anything that no evidence supports conclusively. That my standard definition of agnosticism and I agree that an agnostic
shouldn't believe. So what else does an agnostic do but DOUBT the vadility of these claims? I disbelieve in theism because logic cannot be successfully applied in order for me to define God. This does not mean that I deny the possibility of God. So tell me if this is true or not -- you are equating the term disbelief with strong atheism; belief that God cannot exist.
Thanks, I'm just trying to understand if there's something about agnosticism I'm missing because you seem to know.