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Old 01-09-2008, 08:11 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Not to answer for Gesh, I have faith in faith. This means that faith is an experience to me and not a belief in something particular. For instance, I have faith that all faiths are pointing towards similar experiences even though its unclear exactly what this is. And, in fact, my faith is the stronger because of this lack of certainty.

If I knew anything with absolute certainty, then faith wouldn't be necessary.
If I believed in anything with absolute certainty, then faith wouldn't be necessary.

Faith goes where knowledge and belief can't. Or maybe faith is that which can transform knowledge and belief into living experience. Everything begins with faith, but its just a matter of what we put faith into. Even science must begin with assumptions that can't be proven scientifically. This isn't a weakness of science. This is a fact of the human psyche.
Knowledge and beliefs can and are often derrived using faith. I agree that at the beginning, there is a point where illogic triumphs and we must make assumptions and build from and that is the weakness of logic.
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I put faith into all kinds of things, but I try to remember that faith precedes what we place it in. To imperfectly translate this into scientific terms, observation should precede theory.
So, isn't faith a word for the phrase "bad use of logic"? It seems to me that every statement of faith uses logic as a tool to come to those conclusions so that there's no such thing as a belief that is devoid of logic...exception being certain people with cognitive deficencies.
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