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Originally Posted by MJ "revoltingpawn"  Sorry Hitler did not use scientific research to convince his fellow German's to invade all of Europe. Almost all wars are justified by convincing the masses that it is God's will and their destiny. Listen to his speeches...but funny you seem to agree with me anyway. George Bush told us God is on our side and it's his will to invade Iraq. Hell he even said God spoke to him. LOL Why does he say this because people will believe him! You can have a million real reasons to go to war but at the end of the day need God on your side. |
No I agree with that. But like I said... Hitler used it as a tool to stoke the fires. But you still can not blame the religion. You have to blame Hitler for abusing it, and the sheep that followed. If someone fools me, it is my shame as well. Hitler was not religious, he used it as a tool, just like a firearm. A tool to accomplish his desires.
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Originally Posted by MJ "revoltingpawn" Socialism is against core principals of what the Bible teaches? Huh? You could say it whats to be a replacement for religion. The point of Socialism is the state is the center of the people's existence and not God so the state tells you what to do. Not agreeing with but at least more honest in not telling us it's God's will. The Bible teaches us many things and some are contradictory, some are illegal these days , but yes contains a little truth. |
You just provided supporting evidence that my statement is correct. If socialism is to be a replacement then of course they are at odds. I would say we are in much agreement here. But there is no way I could go for socialism. No entity on this earth that is more corrupt than myself will be my God and tell me what life is about or what to do. The people at the top can use either Religion or Socialism to control people. If the person has good will and no corruption then the population will prosper, but if they only want to abuse their power then the population will suffer. It makes no difference if the government is religious or not.
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Originally Posted by MJ "revoltingpawn" OK now your going over the deep end now... Comparing a gun to religion? Religious indoctrinate has been ingrained our CULTURE since the beginning of time. Yes religion is part of our culture and the biggest part. In fact, it's part of our psychological makeup! The reason why feel guilt as kid when masturbate, why say God told us to do it when become a serial killer, and to justify wars. Since you said we can blame our culture then thanks again for agreeing with me. |
You have missed the boat on this one my friend. A culture can have a religion, but a culture is not made by a religion. There are many DIFFERENT cultures with the same religion. Now a Religion can have impact, but that level of impact is never the same, sometimes it is very small, or non-existent and sometimes it is large and overwhelming. This is why it is unfair to blame religion. Because it has shown to be relative on all sides of the confrontation.
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Originally Posted by MJ "revoltingpawn" Wish you responded to my response when you said I was troll but guess maybe you were embarrassed about that whole thing.
While its been nice and you may have the final word but I will not respond to any more comments that don't have to do with the original reason for this thread which was the series "Does God Have a Future?". The main theme was since all religions were born from cultures and times not relevant to us today and of course are man made so why do we need religion anymore? In fact people are starting to turn away and develop their own personal beliefs not forced on to them from a guy on a pulpit saying he speaks for God. Any one like to continue that discussion? |
And when they develop their own personal beliefs are you going to start blaming that next? If you do then you are only fooling yourself like I said earlier. Blaming everything else but the most responsible part, humanity itself.
God will always have a future. The vast majority of people Believe in God in one way or another. I will show you the dishonesty in this article. It focuses on only the abrahamic religions. There are far more than just that.
And I like his reference that the past few years are all supposedly "remarkable". This has already been foretold. Things are moving along just like clockwork. I dare say it is this world that does not have the future.