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Lets see... Germans and WWII started. Their scientific studies lead them to believe that Aryans are the superior race and that Jews should be wiped out. Of course that Jews being wiped out thing also has something to do with all the Catholic dogma they have been listening too for quite some time. They too ran a socialist state and slaughtered many. Hardly sounds religious to me.
| It was not science that convinced Germans to go along with Hitler's War plans. Nobody believed that BS except a few people in power. Hitler did invoke God and their destiny in this speeches all the time. Check this out... http://www.nobeliefs.com/hitler.htm
Not sure what you were trying to say in the rest of statement... Catholic dogma?...supporting my argument? socialist state?...Hitler's Germany was Fascist. |
I do not deny that there were religious overtones. But the Germans are major Scientific leaders then and even now. For a bunch of religious zealots they certainly seem to excel at science far more than any other nation.
But Hitler used that to his advantage. Socialism is against core principals of what the Bible teaches. Hitler USED religion to stoke the flames of war. He knew what he was doing. You say it yourself... in the name of religion people have been slaughtered and cities destroyed. The leaders used it to their own ends. Scientists that experimented on humans say the ends justify the means.
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Fidel Castro... an Ultimate Secularist, but runs a dictator where he slaughters millions.
| Ummm... was not millions |
I can accept that millions is a trumped up charge... it happens all over the place. Everyone gathers statistics that makes their arguments look good. If you have a reliable number lets have it. Care to produce?
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Originally Posted by MJ "revoltingpawn" It was waste of time of you giving counter examples since never said Religion is the only factor and influence for people but just the biggest and sorry you can't argue that. |
Ohh... I sure can argue that. My stance has always been that, It is not the religion, it is mankind. A tool is just a tool and Religion was a tool. Blaming a tool for responsibility is is the same as blaming a gun for killing and not the person that pulled the trigger. Once something becomes organized, it goes down hill from there.
The logic is simple... blame the murderer, not his tools. Saying blame religion for the people they have killed is the same as saying hate mexicans, africans, russians, americans, chinese, or your favorite race/nationality for the people they have killed.
Now if you want to blame a culture... thats a different story.