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Originally Posted by AB517  Quote:
Originally Posted by Og The notion of god as a separate actor/being on an ultimate scale is demonstrably false. That is not the way the UNIverse works. | We disagree here.
Unless you are talking about a religious God, then I agree.
It is not demonstrably false. This is just flat out wrong.
Could you please explain what you mean?
If you know how the universe works ... your the first. |
The notion of an entity with intrinsic identity is illusion. A flower is made up 100% of non flower parts. Same with a tornado and a person and a deity. All things are entirely defined by extrinsic characteristics.
Defining something with intrinsic identity is just a convention that is used as a local reference. Nothing has intrinsic identity in the universe. Thus the notion of a being (i.e. a thing with intrinsic identity) is false. Thus the notion of a god as an entity separate from you/me/the universe is false (as I said above).
This is called dependent origination. All things dependently arise from all other things. All is one. Just as weather systems come together to form a tornado, all "things" are produced by the confluence of other things ad infinitum until you see the universe as a single process.