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Originally Posted by Skepticologist  Right. NOTHING to do with fate at all. From my agnostic viewpoint, the universe has been set in motion by a force I have no way of substantively understanding, but I can still observe it. |
I'm curious about what the above statement means to you personally.
Why do you think there is a force that set in motion the universe?
Why do you think the universe was set in motion?
What was the beginning point?
What was before the beginning point?
You say you can observe this force...
What observations are these?
Why do you interpret these observations as you do?
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What is deemed as fate by those among us who demand meaning from anything and everything that happens as the result of the chaotic motion of the universe is simply happenstance to those of us who don't demand such meaning.
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I don't demand meaning from anything, but I do have a sense of meaning in the world and I have a hope for meaning. Even your perspective is meaningful, and your definition of meaning in the universe seems very important to you. Its probably safe to assume that nobody here is a complete nihilist which is to say that all of us are probably believers in some kind of meaning.
Why do you assume that anything and everything in the universe is the result of chaotic motion that, as you said above, was set in motion by a force at the beginning of time that can't be understood despite being observeable?
What do you mean by chaotic motion? By chaotic, do you mean lacking in consciousness, intelligence, and purpose? Do you mean lacking in an intrinisic ordering principle? Or are you referring to chaos theory?