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Old 12-21-2007, 11:45 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Hi marmalade .......... I feel like I have to reach for the dictionary, google things, and search Wiki every time I read one of your posts...... but unfortunately (or fortunately) I am lazy.
That is why you need a handy dandy electronic dictionary like the one I carry around with me in my backpack. I'm lazy too and if it wasn't for this I'd look up a lot less words. I also like the various dictionary websites... when I'm at the computer and too lazy to reach over to my backpack. And I don't need to mention my love of wikipedia.

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As a devout agnostic .... for me ... theistic gods are out. Not exactly sure putting "pan" in front of something, how it changes the meaning. pan - "all of the parts or relating to the whole"?
Your definition sounds fine. Philosophically, 'pan-' seems to be a way of referring to the whole world as included in whatever term its a prefix to. I've never seen it used in any other way, and its not a prefix that I can remember ever seeing outside of philsophical terms.

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Nevertheless, the only deistic god that makes sense regarding the evidence and rationale (for me) would be a god as part of the universe (in us all etc). Not necessarily intelligent, but ordered (sort of; and if not, intelligent and not ordered). Oh what the hell...I don't really know. If you have a label for this type of belief I would appreciate it.
That is a nice god you got there. It can be either intelligent or ordered, but not both. Just one question... can it be both just not simultaneously? That'd be cool!

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in the mean time, yours faithfully, a panagnostic
http://www.originalfaith.com/blog/20...rium_9111.html

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The Age of Aquarium
Schools of Fish and Thought

The theists prayed and said “Amen,” while atheists said “Ahem . . .”
“There’s no such thing, you silly goofs; you haven’t any proof.”
Panentheists sought elbow room, they tried to wriggle in.
That en’s a tricky syllable; it splices God’s hair thin.

“How do you know?” agnostic said, referring to the “en.”
“I see your point – and his, and hers – yet don’t know
“Which to choose.” “Wait, I know,” Ag’s friend piped up, “Try starting
“Your own school. Decide it’s all a paradox; become a panagnostic.”

Meanwhile, the atmosphere and sea
Continually grew hotter. A school of fish went belly up;
They never even muttered. A school of fish up-belly went
And not a word was uttered.

The nameless One did scratch his head, non-literally befuddled.
“What’s up with this?” God asked himself, “Creation’s gotten
“Muddled. These chat a lot and don’t do much; those never were my
“Wishes. Next time I’m in the mood to plan, I think I’ll stop at fishes.”

Paul Martin
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