Originally Posted by Vinterland

Are you trying to be dumb? So what you are saying one must anowledge that they are agnostic consciously to be agnostic???? Moron we are governed by the laws of science!!!IrrelevantUntill scientific conclusions are established you know only what want to know when it comes to the unexplained!IrrelevantAtheism is a little weak word created by the church goers to give an negative generalisation to those who apose to swallow everything that is fed to sheep like you. Provide referenceAtheists are unable to think outside the boxProvide reference ( just like you). If atheists were a dominant force in our lives, we simply never would have discovered black holes because we would have never believed such entities existed, simply put, atheist and church fundimentalists is like an ostrich with its head in the sand . See aboveAgnostics are far from this.A new born hasnt the ability like you to think for itself, it has only instinct. It cannot see clear objects for its first year! Its eyes cannot send clear messages to the brain liek say a 3 old would. An infant isn't as developed as a three year old, who would have thought?So how can you say a child is atheist even if he or she was not raised by parents that followed religion when it has the ability of free thinking and within this infinite ability imagination naturaly creates super beings that can not be prooven yet affect the childs life in several ways.Rephrase this poor excuse for a rhetorical question. Is this child not agnostic to its own imagination???? Cause GOD, dummy, is your imagination.Prove it.

You want me embaress you son....heres where i stand.I am not a monotheist i am agnostic not because i consciously accept i am, i am agnostic because i know to much to think i know everything.
You appear to be everything, but an agnostic. This statement proves it: "Cause GOD[...]is your imagination."
I believe the universe was created out of nothing, it has no begining and no end according to the laws of science You could have simply said "infinite." Elaborate on what you mean by that.....the basic assumption of science is scientific determinism, the laws of science determine the evolution of the universe given its state at one time...these laws may or may not have been decreed by god but he cannot intervine to break the laws or they will not be lawsYou know nothing of God...that leaves god with the freedom to choose the initial state of the universe but even here its seems there may be laws...so god will have no freedom at all.My prior assertion is again evidenced. Here's a rhetorical question: Who are you to say what God can and can't do? You really do think of yourself as God Himself.Do you follow numbskull?
That is why im agnosticYou are 100% the opposite of what is agnostic.....because the begining is unclear to me other than what science is revealing. What is important to me is purpose...we are lost without it, so the human conscious creates the omnipotence to anchor us, This is your worst, false generalisation, yet. to make rational of how we carry out our lives and shrug at phenomena as if to say that is for GOD to know, and not us,...its a pity, for Solon's laws already gave us sanity, and Socrates gave us the will to question all....for the question is the foundation of truth. The only thing that i gravitate towards is CHAOS.

And dont say i have no clue about the meaning of agnostic, it is a word which was fathered by my 1st language which is used more than yours, Greek.
On a side note, is it true Greeks are the hairiest people on earth? Or is that Italians? Probably both because you're of the same race.
Il give you the time to come back with some salt which concludes that im not agnostic to your character, your more atheist than than your agnostic phile, actualy your just plain arrogant.
You're one of the most ignorant atheists I've ever had the displeasure of meeting. With every single word you've said, you've effectively proven you're a gnostic, strong atheist. Unfortunately, you're nothign special; just one amongst tens of thousands of people fancy themselves "agnostics", not atheists, when they are in fact strong atheists.